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Got this picture from Autobild.de.

Rumors or facts? Any performance changes / improvements? Please help me! :help: :help: :help:

I am in the market for a Cayenne S.

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Photoshopped, but believed to be accurate. For 2005 MY, Porsche is changing all their front end (997, 987) to the round lenses. I think that the real light units will be more elongated (extend deeper), like they are on the new 997 and 987's.

You have to like the look - the original Cayenne looks better, and even that is a look you have to get used to.

Another rumor is that VW will stretch the Touareg by 8 inches for 2005. This will make the car long enough for a third row seating which will then also be offered. They also offer the V10 diesel engine for fuel economy and longevity. (Look at the torque number for the diesel below!)

Testdrive the car also - several Cayenne owners have said (online) that they chose the V6 over the V8 as the V8 does not significantly alter the car's behavior, but makes the car much more expensive ($67k sticker price). (I assumed that the V6 has the optional road holding package that is standard on the S - it's the most impressive feature on the Cayenne)

Also read the AutoBild comparison between the Cayenne S and the Cadillac SRX - they gave the nod to the Caddy.

We testdrove most of the car's below, and would have liked the Caddy if it had more towing capacity (we have a 5,000lb trailer).

Jeep is rumored to be using many mercedes parts, most notable is the same clutch mechanism, and the Hemi engine is already breaking records in the Chrysler and Dodge products. You get eight cilinders for acceleration, but on the freeway it fires only 4 cilinder for higher fuel economy.

Also, test drive the Hummer H2 - it is a very different car (slower, bigger), but quite impressive non the less. Pricing is the same ($52k).

We will wait a while longer - the cars keep getting better.

               Jeep          BMW      Porsche  Merc.Benz Cadillac  Volkswagen       Infinity Lexus 
               Gr. Cher.     X5       Cayenne  ML        SRX         Touareg        FX       GX 
               Ltd w/ Hemi   4.4i     S        500(2004) V8       V8       TDI      45       470 
Engine         5.7L V8 Hemi  4.4L V8  4.5L V8  5.0L V8   4.6L     4.2L V8  5.0L V10 4.5L V8  4.7L V8 
Transmission   5A            5A       6A       5A        5A       6A       6A       5A       5A 
Horsepower hp  330           315      340      288       320      310      310      315      235 
Max hp at rpm  @5000         @5400    @6000    @5600     @6400    @6200    @3750    @6400    @4800 
Torque lbft    375           324      310      325       315      302      553      329      320 
Max torque at  @4000         @3600    @5500    @2700     @4400    @3000    @2000    @4000    @3400 
Curb Weight    4860 lbs(act) 4927 lbs 4950 lbs 4874 lbs  4442 lbs 5300 lbs 5825 lbs 4309 lbs 4740 lbs 
Max towing     7200          6000     7716     5000      4250'05  7716     7716     3500     6500 
0-60           7.0s(act)     6.8s     7.2s     6.8s      6.7s     7.5s     7.5s(est)6.5s     7.7s 
Gasoline       89 (87 ok)    93       93       93        91       93       Diesel   93       93 
Mileage        14/21         16/22    14/18    14/17     15/20    14/18    17/23    15/19    15/18 
Price          $40k          $52k     $55k     $46k      $48k     $42k     $58k     $45k     $45k 


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For the really power-hungry ones: As the 2004 BMW 4.4i is now almost as powerful as the 4.6i, BMW is to offer a 4.8is. ML has the ML55 AMG, whereas Porsche has the Cayenne Turbo.

The ML will also be completely new in 2005, going to a unibody frame, i.e. the car will be lighter and faster, but engine options still unknown - shown is the 2004 5.0L engine. Also, a 400hp AMG engine is rumored.

9/12/2004 - Jeep weight corrected (V6 weight was shown)

10/23/2004 - Replaced weight and acceleration by actual numbers (C&D)

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