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To be continued...
ASAP I'll post new pics!
So I'm proud to share it with you guys.
In Spain we have great specialist and we're trying to grow up our automotive culture.
Hope you'd like it
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More advances in the bodyshell works
BLACK!!!!
From USA, OEM parts:
Found in Australia: the original ashtray
And a lifeguard kit to break the windshield in case of accident:
Despite Josep was decided to paint “black” in Silver original paint, he asked to Zuffenhausen Porsche Musseum, what color code the first 356 own by F. Porsche had. They gave him a quick response:
"The silver color of the museum cars is Porschesilber 980, made from Sikkens. All Historic museum cars (550 Spyder, 356 Nr. 1 (K45-286), 356B Carrera GT) are painted in this color. Additionally that color is the same color for BASF/Glasurit and is named Por 936 and the number is 91109590380936."
So he tried to find this paint to make several test to decide the ultimate choice about the color of the car, and finally purchased 1 lb to be tested in some panels.
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In this special image you can appreciate all the different color layers since bare metal to the last ‘Black’ one, … you could imagine how this shell suffered among its life…
Josep is a very exigent guy. He likes to check and have the total control of every little detail and minimun aspect of what he is doing. It’s the only way to have success. He is trying to have direct contact to every specialist involved in the restoration. To organize them and don’t past the deadlines is a delicate task.
Here you can see some pictures about the meetings with the specialist.
And below is the upholsterer:
The core, closer to be finished
Black begins to appear as a new car:
This is Erik
He was doing an excellent restoration job, artistic, recovering early aspects, cleaning the parts up, detailing, etc
We left a throttle bodies part left to be restored. Look at the pictures before and after:
Historic details were sandblasted
As he told in former messages, a new Fuchs set was coming. He purchased them to a spanish Porsche rallye champion legend: Antonio Zanini
They had an interesting appointment and Josep was very pleased to receive several advices from this fantastic Porsche expert.
The rims were in black finish ready to be polished:
More parts ordered:
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Josep found an original engine lid interior decals set (he found an OEM tool kit too):
More pictures and more progress!! Black’s bodyshell has been restored and repaired. She received primer and now she’s ready for paint! In the paintshop, they’re using high quality materials (primer, paint, coat) and now they have to do a very fine work to complete this body restoration. After that, began a new proccess of assembling the rest of the car. The restoration is going on very quick ‘cause Josep is managing perfectly every project’s step and controlling the timing, periods, and the rhythm took by the different workers involved in.
We usually see many long time restorations. Josep knew his target and prepared it meticulously.
More pictures showing the engine almost finished. As you can see, he decided to go for hydraulic chain tensioners:
Josep ordered a new Fuchs 6x15 rim set after redesigning the car’s front bumper (a 2.2S one)
Then he decided to sell the early 5,5x14 Fuchs rim set to anyone who could appreciate them in other Porsche… to be continued…
One more picture of the external components of the core
(The rear grill was too damaged to be restored, so Josep decided to go for a new one)
The next days the schedule will be:
- underbody gravel protection, bonet interior, and floor
- interior area paint
- engine lid, and front hood adjustment
- front and rear windshield installation
Look at the bodyshell: if you could touch it you’d see It was so soft…
- underbody gravel protection, bonet interior, and floor
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Josep told us that the bodyrepair shop decided to join a new member:
A 55 year-experienced bodyrepair worker!! He came to solve some minor problems reservated to very skill experts.
In the mechanic specialist, the 2.2 flat 6 is going on!!!
Josep asked us what we think about this rear defense:
Nobody liked it!
3 photoshoped pics about the rear badges. Josep was thinking about deleting the 911T emblem. As He is man who like to consult everything to other people, soloporschers told him to maintain all the badges.
Some of us told him to place golden rear emblems instead of silver plated ones, as they were period correct.
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More pics (gearbox and engine):
Josep is enjoying every detail and is living the whole process as a part of his life!
I suggested Josep to install the rear chromed bumpers without rubber, as I don’t like it at all, and he was thinking about it referred to the chromed/contrast with exterior silver paint.
Here’s ‘Black’ in the repair shop: (It was ready to receive the first prime)
These picture were an inspiration source for Josep:
40 years ago in 1971 began this story. A pic from the Porsche Factory (this car could be ‘Black’)
The engine looks very very pretty!!
Original decals and cloth!
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Some more pics:
The cylinder head ready
Remember that this car is ‘Matching Numbers’!
And here, trying to place the Blaupunkt to check It was perfect to match into its space.
The car going to receive a sandblasted process:
Come on Black!!!
3 pics of sandblasting:
Josep shared these pics of nude ‘Black’:
After dissambling, dismantling, cleaning, sandblasting, etc, the car was ready to go back to the repair bodyshop.
There is only a small rust focus, that will be repaired with a new panel welded.
Look at the driver’s door how it looks after an old bad repairing job.
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The car was almost totally dismantled, ready to go to the body repair shop to be sand blasted:
During the process of dissambling, they noticed 4 different paint color sleves! Yvory, black, red, blue,… silver…
The original paint was silver
So….. when Josep could see the original Silver after dissambling the interior carpet, he had a smile and thought, that ‘Black’ really deserved to become a Silver 911 again!!!! With the original Silver Glasurit code to match those metallic early tones…
The classic Targa bar comparing the original Silver interior:
The dash was sent to the upholstery shop to be restored
Here you can see the final combination chose by Josep. A Silver exterior paint, and the black/tan leather interior:
There is another problem: the engine cylinder heads needs to be replaced!!!
Bad luck…
The definitive color could be:
SILVER METALLIC GLASURIT 90-E ‘two compounds’.
Some pics from a ’71 911 in this color:
The same car in the cabin:
But finally Josep decided to change…… and here is the chosen: An old Silver used in the first Gmund 356 owned by Dr. Ing. Ferdinand Porsche:
(He renamed the car as ‘Silver Black? Ha ha)
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Josep found this on ebay:
The rear muffler cover trim (similar to Steve McQueen’s 911)
He was thinking about to install it… not sure… perhaps He would place it at the end of restoration to check the result…
In Steve’s car looks like this:
He was a bit confused to see how the Slate appears in a Targa:
A bit boring?
Example of Slate code 6001 in an early 911:
Josep purchased on ebay the original 1971 911 Autoradio Blaupunkt original:
More wishes: combine the exterior and the interior. Josep wanted a clear interior, as possible made with natural brown leather, or perhaps red…
As a curiosity, he found this picture (a 911 finished in Slate Grey with red stripes)
Nevertheless he likes all black leather interior, but this other combinations too:
More images in the important process of obtaining the final color:
Lots of test: solid, metallic, different Slates…. Silvers…
At the end of June, Josep ‘decided’ to go for Slate combined to natural tan leather:
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Pics showing the shell in very good condition:
A Fuch rim after a sweet polished to check how they could look:
Incredible to see this!!!!!!!!
‘Black’ had the factory original oil filter installed yet!
In Soloporsche, this thread has lot of followers, and Josep tried to share their decisions with everybody. Here’s a picture asking for advice about exterior paint:
Josep purchased a butterfly center horn for the original steering wheel:
Look at the early horn center button, and the new black leather with the Porsche crest embossed to replace the old one:
Some pictures to see the Slate Grey, the Silver, and examples of former boats restorations, including 28 sleves finishing coat
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One of the most important decision is to contract the proper professionals to do the best job.
Josep chose Salvador (from Talleres Astur) as a mechanic to overhaul the engine and dismantle the car. Josep was very happy to see that ‘Black’ kept up a very good condition without rust evidences, so he could say that this purchase was the correct decision. ‘Black’ was a 911T comfort pack equipped, which 14” Fuchs rims included. Josep prefer to restore these 14”Fuchs, and not going for 15”.
Pics with some progress:
Josep happy to see how it began.
This is Salvador, the Porsche specialist.
Josep was going to choose a Silver exterior paint color. In the begginings he had lot of doubts about what silver tonality, or color code to paint the car. He wanted Slate Gray, similar as Steve McQueen’s 911, … or perhaps the early 356 similar to steel…
Difficult to choose a silver one, as every night he was lurking about an ultimate silver… Some examples:
Soloporsche users gave him some advices about colors:
Here is a pic with new cylinders and pistons. The engine interior was in bad conditions.
More images with exterior paint advices from other soloporsche users:
Green:
A 356 in Slate grey
Different Slate tonalities:
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Hi guys!!
I’m very proud to share this fantastic restoration thread.
A Soloporsche.com friend, is making an amazing full restoration. The car is a “Matching Numbers” 1971 911 2.2 Targa S.Trim, and the owner and restorer is Mr. Josep Vicent from Alicante (Spain), though he’s worldwide famous as a musician, film composer and orchestra conduct. You can check http://josepvicent.com/index.php and www.film-music-composer.com
his nickname in Soloporsche is ‘collector’.
(As you know, Soloporsche.com is the best spanish spoken forum in the internet).
Here’s the link:
http://www.soloporsc...ead.php?t=48478
Nevertheless I prefer to show you the pics and translate (to my best knowledge) the thread.
Josep purchased a black 911T Targa, that was almost heading to the scrapyard, from an owner in northern Spain.
The origins of this car are in USA, as It was a US specs car, imported to Europe, through Holland. The car needed lots of hours to be reborn to its perfect condition, but the shell seemed to be quite free of rust. So, It was the best argument for Josep to get the car and begin this awesome project.
Their story began around the first days of June 2011.
Believe me if I tell you that he is a man with a very special touch when doing a restoration like this. Experienced enough to know that something like this could turn into a nightmare, as you know.
In his own words; “you need lots of passion and affection everyday” “this is a blank check task, and everybody knows that adversities will come undoubtedly”
Josep Vicent is deeply in love with his 911, and shares with us every step in the way, and progress made by the specialists around him.
He thought that the car would need a name, and called her ‘Black’ (honouring the shading, matt exterior color she had when they met). Latter we will find out that the car went out the factory in original silver paint.
I am impressed seing how he is controlling every little detail, managing the whole project, with a perfect team work between the different specialists who are taking part in this restoration (bodyshell, paintshop, Porsche specialist mechanic, interior leather upholsterer, and so on...). Former restorations made by him were MB Pagoda, Le Baron, Toyota FJ40, and several classic boats!
Josep has a Porsche classic engagement and is completing a Spanish Porsche Classic Pre73 Registry too.
Here you can see some pics of ‘Black’:
Here you have the Toyota FJ40 full restored by Josep some years ago: (nice car… and one of the most reliable vehicles you can see)
Some pics of ‘Black’ going to be reborn:
The car had been parked in a garaje for years. She was too dirty, including rat nest were found in the engine!!
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As I couldn't answer any of the technical questions, here I copy/paste an extended explanation that Rober (Insaro) posted in other forum to response other IMS upgrade Kit manufacturer:
First of all good evening- and calmness. Here we're to be able to discuss about a problem solution. In the following paragraphs I'll try to explain all the doubts you would have concerning to Insaro reinforcement Kits.
Regarding to M96 engine knowledge, I'm sensible to know that there will be lots of people with a great experience in this particular issue, for instance yourself Jake. A few of us have learnt thanks to your threads and experience.
I have a huge experience on the field of design, finite elements analysis, tridimensional model generating, and big machines, robotized systems research and developing in the field of iron and steel sector, that means is a good platform. I hope you could believe me Jake, 'cause there are very complex systems with efforts and working atmosphere, with a huge difficult component more than a M96 engine could never arise. I could tell you lots of them but, as an example I can show you this robot (by the way is working in your country):
I'm a person who is used to place myself in an engine, a processing equipment industrial plant, an industrial oven, etc, trying to study and develop solutions to improve, upgrade at this point. This is my speciality, where I hit on the nail: to anylize and improve the quality of elements. That's why though I'm not an specific specialist on M96 engines, that question is not relevant to disqualify me, to be ready to offer my little contribution to Porsche world (I hope you don't worry about it Jake). I can assure from my deep heart that my only purpose is always to grow, and evolve over a problem root.
The main question is that Porsche enthusiastics could know the product, its improvements, and after that they could choose. It would be a great benefit for this community to have several choices.
Once I cleared these things, we can go to directly to study the piece. I like simplify ideas, 'cause It is the best way to interpret a problem solution
Porsche has a design problem at present, ok. You make an analysis and contribute to solve the problem, generating a mechanized piece over a melting piece design. Then you add it to an hybrid bearing. The improvent is good, but I don't consider it as a solution. I hope this argument wouldn't disturb you Jake. I say it with all repects to you.
To solve the problem is the same as erase the problem. I always think that anything is forever, anything will work as eternal, so in the likelyhood of an hybrid bearing failure... what could happen? I know It's too difficult but not impossible.
At this point we place a first step: to look for a problem solution which means that if the IMS fails the engine could be intact, 'alive'.
If the main bearing fails, we have another point to lean the IM shaft on. The principal aim is avoid the shatf taking down, and keep the chains on. But the most important is that the driver could realize the problem.
Inside the piece, we looked for a new design completely new and never similar to Porsche OEM one. We consider that It's a wrong design, so if you continue making something similar we'll finally fall down at the same point: a total disaster. We begin with a holder piece 3 times increased than the original one. So we can assure that It is holding the IMS more efficiently, and with less posibility to generate vibrations in its spinning work.
Besides, we reinforce the piece in a better steel alloy. Remember that Porsche's bearing support is melted, and if you want to increase this stiffness, you'll need to begin with a more structural steady piece designed, with less arris, and stronger to take the new generated efforts
We go for a 20 mm bearing support, instead of the 6-8 mm current, where the bearing is perfectly placed and supported and not a 57% as you can check in the current market pieces. As you said It's very important to make a deep study of a system which is supporting a bearing, especially when It's generating a pile of working frequencies. We humans are placed over two feet, 100% of support. If we'd lift a leg, then we'll be placed in a single foot, just 50% of support.. Currently, Porsche's bearing and yours are placed and supported only in a 57%. The rest is placed in a traction working shaft, with a 5% gap/hence/fedge So the result is that more than half bearing is suported in a non steady surface. This is not only my own appreciation, you can check it here:
IMHO this is an error, a serious error, to support a bearing in a mix way. It generate stabilty lack, a terrible lack of support just in the point where radial forces are being generated
Talking about lubrication, I must say that the main bearing is being lubricated by engine oil, obviously It is mounted without side covers.
The second bearing receives lubrication at the same time with engine oil with the centrifuge effect generated by the IMS spinning.
At present, there are no bearings which could suffer a failure being stopped and lubricated. Concerning to a probably main bearing failure and a working task for the secondary, the generated gap between the bearing and the internal shaft was calculated to produce a little alternative strain in the chains. That was thought to alert both hall sensors and produce an 'check engine light in your dashboard.
We did several studies checking different phase angles in the sensors, with different strain chains to analize where is the margin of fine working before offer error in the Motronic unit. We know very well the electronics as we are specialist in remapping since 1989. In this case we designed it to produce a little pitching in the bearing support and alert the driver that something wrong is happening.
Another important thing: this kit could save your life. Imagine thta you're driving in a sharp bend road and you decide to make a passing maneuver. Imagine that at this point, you suffer a IMS failure... Imagine that a truck comes to you ... but and you calculated the distance with your superb Porsche... you could die without power. Insaro don't leave you without power. You could continue driving without any problem and accelerating te same as before. Think about it...
As you well know, Porsche's Variocam system works with twim signals.
A hall pushing time failure, will give you Check Engine Light, to alert you that the engine is failing, and in the likelyhood of a main bearing failure, the second bearing will produce a Christmas tree in the dash to prevent you that something wrong goes, and stop the engine.
The secondary bearing doesn't have the aim to last the whole life, nor lasting 1000 working hours. Its aim is avoid the IMS to take down producing a total disaster . This a contribution to solve the problem as we understand under our point of view Concerning to the doubts about the second bearing, I'll do a comparison to Porsche OEM bearing.
Porsche OEM bearing, as we know could make a good amount of miles but after that, and due to several things, finally could fail. Well, I'm going to show you Porsche OEM bearing endurance data, and after that our Insaro secondary bearing endurance data.
As you can see, besides being better than Porsche's one in all load capabilities, we include something very important: our secondary bearing can hold axis loads, and balls bearings mounted as main bearing do not.
Porsche OEM bearing Vs INSARO secondary bearing
I have no problem to show you original data from Manufacturer website if you don't believe any data posted here. They are joined in a table to appreciate directly and clear that Insaro's bearing exceeds more than 3 times lots of endurance aspects of Porsche's one. There's no way to doubt about its endurance.
These data made me think the following: If Porsche's bearing is able to last till 10 years working, Insaro's one will be capable to last 5 minutes working till you'd find a clear zone to stop your car and toe to your car to your mechanic. You'll get your car saved. The only thing would be to install a new piece, new oil, an so on, always better than a new engine. That's the target.
Besides we increased for 3 times the sealing capabilities. As you know your car could suffer IMS oil leaks. Our Insaro piece has 3 special Viton seals which make it impossible to leak.
Jake, we have so much safety and confidence in our product that is protected with an international patent and registered for the main markets in USA, Europe, Africa, Oceania, etc
We are so confident in our kits that we offer 3 year warranty. Not more we can add about safety in our job.
I don't like to critizice in an aggresive way any aspect of your design, and in fact, I could do it, but I'll just try to explain you INSARO qualities. It's better to show Porsche world all the positive things of the market kits and better to get in a primary school argue.
Concerning to the endurance, all the pieces were re-designed and we added all the improvements of steel compounds, thermal treatments, and they don't look similar in any aspect to Porsche OEM or LN design. By the way, the pusher tool is very similar to yours, jake, but you know there's nothing special to design a simple cylinder to place a bearing in.
Here you can see several videos comparing both pieces. I'd like to know where you can see any estructural weakness
I can assure you that if we begin talking about Porsche estrutural weakness, we'll need a lot of time for it
INSARO Vs Porsche
INSARO Shaft Vs Porsche Shaft
For me it`s very clear, this kit is not a copy, is a new development at 100%.Talking about prices is relative. Here is a contribution where you can see a problem completely solved. There is a NEW design, new improvements in avoiding oil leaks (triple protection seals), high quality materials, high quality bearings, and what's more: a problem solved. So, do you really can meassure how much the product cost?
Charles & Jake, I do all this work since the most repectable attitude to your company and your preventive solutions. I respect your brilliant career, and I expect that you could understand my words and explanations.
What I did is nothing similar to yours. It's other point of view looking for a definitive solution and I must say that there is an important difference between both products. There are no simitudes.
Kind regards
Roberto R.
INSARO Proyect Manager.
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It is always a positive when people are coming up with innovative solutions. The fact that he is willing to stand behind his product WITH a 3 year warranty speaks volume about his confidence in the solution, especially if he gets a U.S. distributor.
Will he be offering a complete kit with the extraction tool for the old bearing?
What is the anticipated price for the kit?
Looking forward to more information.
Regards, Maurice.
Yes, he offers extracting tool
The prices are in the web, but in €
Available in english next week
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Hi guys: :thumbup:
I'm anxious to tell you one of teh most important revolution we can get to make our M96 engines eternal. Forget the IMS issue. All of us know that there are some ways to reinforce the IMS, but any of them are like this: the ultimate solution to prevent a total engine failure due to a IMS issue.
In our spanish spoken forum, Soloporsche.com , we're very proud to have a really Porsche expert engineer who developed this fantastic and awesome idea. Our friend Rober, has designed a real solution:
Double bearing, large bearing support, reinforced external piece, specific compound material seals (triple advanced seal solution to avoid oil leaks)....
Our friend Rober created a web to explain how the kit works
(it will be in english / german next week)
http://www.insaroims.com/index.php
An hybrid ceramic compound bearing was used to achive a high endurance life
3 years warranty, excellent h.q. materials, but ......
... imagine that It could fail... the bearing could fail... what happens to the engine...????
Don't cry!!!! :nono: There is a second special bearing to work as an engine lifeguard
What do you think guys?
IMPORTANT: I don't sell anything. I don't have any commercial interest in this kit. I only want to share with you one the best advanced solutions for our engines.
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And what's more: a 996 Carrera is a sporty car but not a race car
I have lots of friends who are 996 and 997 GT3, TT and RS models owners. All of them use these cars in several trackdays per year. More than a trackday per month.
They take care about intensive oil change, break pads, filters, cooling system, and all the things you need to overmaintain a circuit car.
(Some of them have a RUF, 9ff preparation)
I've never heard anything about an engine failure of them. They use them close to the limit.
Nevertheless, I've seen with my eyes several M96 breakdown since we are organizing mettings in Soloporsche forum.
Cars used as daily, or occasionally transport. People who take care about intensive maintenance, always detailing the interior, exterior, engine, warming the engine, and don't abuse of the engine performance.
The truth is very clear: Phillip is absolutely right. Porsche obtained a good profit with the reman engines. They found a fantastic source to obtain benefits from all people who suffered an egine failure out of warranty. The list is too long
I'm sorry but I have to agree with Juaquin.
There is no excuse for the number of failures of M96 engines. Porsche knew they had a design problem and waited 10 years to rectify it. If there were no design problems there would be no market for Jake Raby and others.
I agree that when you buy a sports car you have to expect more cost and maintainence. But not engine failures with normal use...
I'm against frivolous lawsuits but this one would have merit. If a drug maker hides flaws and dangers in drug but releases it anyway they should be responsible. Same goes for Porsche. They knew they had a major problem and ignored it and covered it up.
I love these cars but I would NEVER own one without a warranty. Been down that road before..
That's my 2 cents anyway...
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Joaquin,
Respectfully, performance cars do have problems, and typically they are expensive to fix. PNA did replace my engine, although not with an IMS failure, after the warranty ran out. I was very happy. No one forced you to buy this car. If you don't want the assumed risk and additional liability, sell it and buy a less expensive / performance car. Suing Porsche AG isn't the solution here. It just makes everything more expensive for everybody and fuels more litigation.
Simon
This sounds as a poor argument.
Everybody know that Porsche is a synonymous with reliabilty, strength, and endurance.
Performance cars do have problems, OK! But a fail design isn't a problem due to high speed, or tracking the car. It can occurs in all circunstance.
I know perfectly what a sport car is. And we are talking about Porsche. Do you consider as normal an engine failure? With clients as you Porsche must be very pleased.
If you suffer a normal problem in your car as electric, fuel pump, etc I think It would be considered as normal. But if you have the corfimation that these horrible figures about blown engines, (MORE THAN 20% DUE TO IMS FAILURE). It was confirmed to Soloporsche's Staff by an Expert Porsche Engineer, besides other employees who said it was even higher. We investigated it with accuracy.
There are lot of Porsche users who want a solution after paying a new engine bill.
This is an important thing that happens in Spain and I think It must be known for all of you
Thanks
1971 911 Targa 2.2 S Trim full restoration in Alicante (Spain)
in 911, 912 Series
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I'm posting Josep's comment:
'Hi guys! The new 15" Fuchs rims are back, after the polish and paintjob. It's not an easy task, due to some difficulties as polishing end corners with the machine.
You ought to achieve to bare aluminum and follow polishing...
Just finished they look glossy, but going by time they get matt finish... pure materials!
I love them!:D:D
Look at the wheels... we can admire them now
By the way, I couldn't resist the temptation to dress Black with one wheel'
CLOSE UPS!!