911/996 oil filter tool & change ? for 2002 911/996

[britdave]

After ringing "Porsche of Orlando", (it's actually in Maitland Fl) my closest dealer to Daytona beach,the service manager told me an oil change was $289.00 & tax $20.23 = OMG ! " $ 309.23 " !!! I then asked how much to do the 2 year brake fluid change , he quoted me $189.00 ! 2 years ago the brake fluid change was $75.00 at the same place. Are we not in a recession ? Anyhow, I decided to the change the oil myself $ 6.25 per quart of Mobil 1 0- 40 X 9 = $56.25 A Mann filter (by mail about $8.00) = $64.25 a savings of $244.98 WOW !!! !!! I remember a member on here saying : " I would rather take it to a dealer, and have the professionals do mine" ? Well I'm pretty well off, but that type of money is ridiculous ! Hey, it's a friggin oil change I recall someone explaining about driving the car (I have a 2002 - 911/996 ) up onto two "2x12" wooden boards , and then doing it yourself. I have never done this before,and would appreciate any advice about doing this, and most of all ,where to get the tools for changing the filter & removing drain plug, where can I order it from & what size ?

Do I need to worry about oil squirting all over, or anything out of the ordinary ? These dealers really ought to think about lowering their price, talk about price gouging ! I get my Dodge Ram oil changed at the dealer for $15.99 & tax (The regular stuff & filter) But over $300.00 come on , this is not a Bugatti Venron ! I could probably do that as well by myself ?

Also, who has the best deals on filters , oil, air , & cabin here in the States ? And which brand is the best ? I'm not interested in the K & N reusable ones either ,I've heard bad things about that ,just get the "GOOD" throwaways .

Wal-mart is the cheapest place for the Mobil 1 ,and speaking of that , I wonder why the 0-40 weight is not available in the 5 quart jugs ? Has anyone reading this seen it sold that way, why not , they sell many other types of Mobil 1 that way ,and it's "considerably" cheaper. Thanks for ANY advice on all the latter. Cheers Dave.... Main question is about the tools , sorry I got carried away.

Edited November 18, 2010 by britdave

[1schoir]

After ringing "Porsche of Orlando", (it's actually in Maitland Fl) my closest dealer to Daytona beach,the service manager told me an oil change was $289.00 & tax $20.23 = OMG ! " $ 309.23 " !!! I then asked how much to do the 2 year brake fluid change , he quoted me $189.00 ! 2 years ago the brake fluid change was $75.00 at the same place. Are we not in a recession ? Anyhow, I decided to the change the oil myself $ 6.25 per quart of Mobil 1 0- 40 X 9 = $56.25 A Mann filter (by mail about $8.00) = $64.25 a savings of $244.98 WOW !!! !!! I remember a member on here saying : " I would rather take it to a dealer, and have the professionals do mine" ? Well I'm pretty well off, but that type of money is ridiculous ! Hey, it's a friggin oil change I recall someone explaining about driving the car (I have a 2002 - 911/996 ) up onto two "2x12" wooden boards , and then doing it yourself. I have never done this before,and would appreciate any advice about doing this, and most of all ,where to get the tools for changing the filter & removing drain plug, where can I order it from & what size ?

Do I need to worry about oil squirting all over, or anything out of the ordinary ? These dealers really ought to think about lowering their price, talk about price gouging ! I get my Dodge Ram oil changed at the dealer for $15.99 & tax (The regular stuff & filter) But over $300.00 come on , this is not a Bugatti Venron ! I could probably do that as well by myself ?

Also, who has the best deals on filters , oil, air , & cabin here in the States ? And which brand is the best ? I'm not interested in the K & N reusable ones either ,I've heard bad things about that ,just get the "GOOD" throwaways .

Wal-mart is the cheapest place for the Mobil 1 ,and speaking of that , I wonder why the 0-40 weight is not available in the 5 quart jugs ? Has anyone reading this seen it sold that way, why not , they sell many other types of Mobil 1 that way ,and it's "considerably" cheaper. Thanks for ANY advice on all the latter. Cheers Dave.... Main question is about the tools , sorry I got carried away.

Dave:

For extra comfort under the car, you can screw together two 2X10's, with the lower one being about 2 1/2 feet long and the upper one being about 1 1/2 feet long, and both of them being cut on a 45 degree angle at the front and a small block of wood screwed in at the back for a stop. If you are not claustrophobic, you can manage it with just one thickness of 2X10. You can then just back up the left rear wheel onto the small ramp you have created and access the drain plug (8mm Allen key, IIRC) and oil fliter housing. If you want to go further, you can make two sets of ramps.

I'll post a pic of some extra short ones that I have made and they work fine, but you can make them longer and with a bigger "stop" at the end.

Three caveats:

1. Even the aluminum "socket" that is made for the Porsche oil filter will get a little "stuck" on the plastic housing of the filter after you torque it down. If you just tap it gently with a small hammer it will come right off.

2. Be very careful with the oil drain plug. It is made of very soft aluminum and it is easy to strip the internal Allen head keyway in the middle of it. Just make sure you are pressing up and that you have the tool in there snug and just right.

3. Because of the relative large volume of oil and the thin viscosity of the oil (especially if it's warm), the oil will come gushing out "violently" when you unscrew the drain plug. A lot more than you might be used to if you've changed oil before. Just be prepared and make sure you have a large enough drain pan to catch it. It WILL splash.

Here is one place that sells the oil filter wrench: http://eagleday.stor...ecialtools.html

Pelican Parts also carries it: http://www.pelicanpa..._TOLtol_pg1.htm

BTW, you are right on about the absolutely ludicrous price that dealer wants to charge. Once you are set up and have done it a couple of times, it takes a lot less time to change the oil and filter yourself, as opposed to having to drive it to the dealer or any place else for that matter to get the oil change. If you follow all of the procedures, including using the proper torque values for the oil drain plug and the filter, you also have the benefit of knowing it was done right!

Regards, Maurice.

Edited November 18, 2010 by 1schoir

[britdave]

Thanks so much Maurice for the info. I couldn't find your pic ? How about the best and cheapest filters (air , oil, and cabin ) who should I purchase them from ? Any suggestions ? Dave..

[bgrpph]

you can get the filters at good price at sunset porsche in oregon for most all gen porsche parts. Can get OEM type at pelican for cheaper- buy a few and keep a few xtras on hand- you may also want to get a LNE drain plug from pelican parts or from LN Engr directly-it doesn't strip like the stock one's do. Rhino ramps are only $20-25 at checker or others big box auto stores & easy to use. be sure your oil drain pan is big and holds a min of 3 gallons- bigger is better- i found the cheap plastic

oil filter wrench wasn't able to do the job on my 1st try, many yrs ago as it distorted a bit and couldn't get the tight filter cover off. the metal works every time.

Buy all this once and you can do oil changes every 5k miles for price of oil/filter

[JFP in PA]

Thanks so much Maurice for the info. I couldn't find your pic ? How about the best and cheapest filters (air , oil, and cabin ) who should I purchase them from ? Any suggestions ? Dave..

Oil and air filters, go to fleetfilter.com (they carry Wix/NAPA Gold, which is a much better made filter than the OEM Mahle or Mann units); unfortunately, they do not have the cabin filter, which you can get from Autohaus AZ................

[RatboneRanch]

Don't forget crush washers!!

[1schoir]

Thanks so much Maurice for the info. I couldn't find your pic ? How about the best and cheapest filters (air , oil, and cabin ) who should I purchase them from ? Any suggestions ? Dave..