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starter removal w/o removing coolant pipes - how to?

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I need some help. I started replacing the starter (intermittent no/weak cranking) and have everything apart, but cannot see a way to get the starter out past the coolant pipes (they are the metal upgrade). I'd really prefer not to open the system since there are currently no leaks and I don't want to induce any leaks or have problems with air in the system.

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1 hour ago, TJrob2000 said:

I need some help. I started replacing the starter (intermittent no/weak cranking) and have everything apart, but cannot see a way to get the starter out past the coolant pipes (they are the metal upgrade). I'd really prefer not to open the system since there are currently no leaks and I don't want to induce any leaks or have problems with air in the system.

Ah this is a little gem to get out but yes it's possible With out actually removing any pipes or doing anything to the cooling system like draining it. 


I have a 2006 turbo but I think its all the same under there. 


So assuming you had the socket and extensions to get the bolts undone and the electrical connection are removed. Then the starter has to come towards you rotate and lift up at a funny angle. It took me maybe 15 mins of jiggling to work out how to do it. Just remember the spot and angle you take it out so putting it back is easy. I also slackened off the number 19 bolts in the diagram Screenshot_20170228-003749.thumb.png.5e67aa6754e5f760dd7ebc309d0afbd1.pngfor the black plastic looking bracket across the back which allowed me to slightly lever up the pipes that gets in the way of the starter coming out easily. 


Good luck. And if you want to see picture of the starter motor stripped check my thread on alternator/generator fault, I also stripped and cleaned my starter looking for a no start cause which turned out to be a seized newly installed reconditioned alternator. (Never buy recon parts... never again)

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Thanks for the input.  I'll try to remember this if I have to do it again.  I ended up towing it to an indy german car shop that has done it before.  Couple of hours of their labor to finish my work and a reman starter and now it finally starts like it always should have.  Too bad the dealer that did the coolant pipes couldn't be bothered to go ahead with the starter (or the owner chose not to which is also foolish).  Only $476 total.  Not bad IMO.

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