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I just got back from the dealer and now have two fully functioning, brand new keys/remotes.

Total cost:

$125 to program both keys (and cut one key blade)

$47 for new remote only

$91 For compete key/remote

Total $263 for two new keys/remotes programmed.

I'm cool with that. They waived the $45.00 charge to cut the new key blade for the complete key/remote

So based on your estimate, it would cost me ~$92 to replace/program my keyfob and keep the blade?

My apologies for bringing this back up to the top!

I am facing this exact issue with a 06 CTTS that I just picked up. The brakes are very noisy at low speeds, the problem tends to come and go.

Has anyone found a workable solution? Did the spray cleaner work? Should I have the (only) dealer check them out?

Thanks for all your help!

Will it make a difference if I swap to ceramic pads? Any recommendations? Would I need to change rotors? Questions questions. This is all very new to me!

New ceramic pads stopped the noises entirely for me. That was 6,000 miles ago, still no noise.

Regarding Electronics

The moBridge for Ipod integration is decent, and safe to say the only method thusfar that is fully integrated. If you have the phone option on your PCM, definitely worth it!

For video input to the PCM, I would not expect to see you find an integral way to access it without splicing wires. Not a smart move, unless you are on really really close terms with the dealership. The PCM is rough to modify, but easy as hell to replace.

I have purchased a failed PCM for the framework/casing for a small computer to place inside. I have an electrical engineer who is repaying a favor by helping me fabricate a stock-looking dash computer. So far, we've used Ubuntu 8.04 desktop with KDE to create a basic interface on a capacitive touchscreen. It's still ugly, but since I am designing it in XML it should be extremely customizable for any solution. I can show you pictures on how to gut an existing PCM, and I would be happy to provide the electrical diagram for the interior components we have mapped to date (it is far from complete). This is a wildly longterm project since it's coming out of my pocket and spare time, but it's been a lot of fun so far. I expect I will lose quite a bit of the PCM's initial functionality, but at least my **** GPS maps will work!!

I think it would almost be cheaper to sell the 2004 CS and buy a 2008 CTT.

hehe you would think so, and in America it probably is, but in Norway a new Cayenne S cost 200.708,- $ and a Turbo costs 290.000,- $.

A used Cayenne S with all options is worth around 89.000,- $. So that's quite a difference ;-)

just buy US version and send it Norway (will be about $3k shipping cost + $1k homologation cost)

+ 190.000$ to get it registered here ;) haha the car taxes in this country are ridicules !

I think you're missing the turbos too! :rolleyes:

How is sharing an infrequently used tool unethical? It's no different than borrowing a nailgun or gear puller. Something like this would be valuable for a club to buy and share between members. It's moot, though; their website shows that the "cheap" one is limited to 3 cars, and that's all that most people are likely to have.

Durametric fixed this little problem. The "cheap" version only works for 3 VINs... ever. The "pro" model works on an unlimited number, but costs way more. That amount of investment is likely to only be performed by someone expecting a return on their money. I wouldn't call it unethical either.

The Durametric tool is the cheapest tool you'll find that does anything other than OBD2. Your alternatives have 2 more digits in the price... for a lease.

Well, the large majority of your monetary investment was discretionary options: new wheels, "custom" body parts, diagnostic tools (WHY did you buy the pro model Durametric just for the Cayenne? Do you have 4 Porsches? If so, you're either A. crazy, or B. too rich to be posting on messageboards) all can not be blamed on the vehicle. You also bought a vehicle on the first/second year of production, which regardless of the manufacturer, always has more issues than later years. If you think the Cayenne run is bad, ask a few people about Jaguar XJ6s from the early-mid 90s. Porsche has never been known for its cabin amenities and interior electronics, so it sucks even in a Cayenne. Being upset about gas prices amuses me; it states clearly on the sticker (here in the USA) that it inhales gas alarmingly. I will remark the parts are expensive, for expensive's sake. There's no reason to pay $700+ for a plastic air intake, for example. I realize there's overhead, but... well, they're doing that wrong. And buying a gas hog SUV at the peak of SUVs for the most possible money as a "resale investment" is a disaster. A word of advice: if you plan on getting a new auto every 4 years, lease. If you are going to keep it till your wife/girlfriend crashes it or until it dies, buy it.

Dropping the customization options, you've spent $2500 or so. It was purchased as a 4 year old vehicle which makes it out-of-warranty. This drops the price in a normal market $5,000-$10,000 (which more than recoups your expenditure). I researched for about 3 months regarding my purchase; I decided a model on it's last 5,000 miles of warranty was worth the $3,000-4,000 price difference, and I was correct. I took it to the dealership 4-5 times to fix every single little nuance I had. Now I have a problem-free experience due to my diligence. Consider this on your next used-car purchase.

I can also safely say ANYONE who has ever driven my Cayenne has absolutely loved it, even my father who owns a Lexus 470 SUV of roughly the same year. There is no real comparison to a Cayenne Turbo as a vehicle besides the BMW. Even then, it's merely a matter of style that separates them (we paid more, but we're WAY quicker and faster).

I am more of a numbers guy. Same gas mileage(I think the turbo was rated at 1mpg less), and I was looking for more of a sleeper. After years of laser red Mustangs, I've learned the true value of subtlety regarding roadside interview frequency.

Why are you looking at a Cayenne? Because they're fast? Turbo, and you can enjoy the control and impressive power.

The look? then go with the newer S model, you'll be happier longer. And covered by warranty.

I'd take the turbo, but I'm crazy.

On the lighter side... if you manage to hose the NAV system, you can buy an entirely new one for the cost of a single year's update CD :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-Tes...16#ht_500wt_973

I'm pretty sure you need downloadable updates, which require registry in the Porsche system somehow. Even so, a PIWIS at $5500 is either hot or broke I'd expect. Any experts have insight/opinions regarding functionality of this piece?

UPDATE:

Well, I had to call another dealership a few towns over and was told that there are 2 keys listed for my 06 tts. one with 2 buttons and the other, which I have, with 3 buttons. Thought I would share this if anyone else has an 06 tts with the same problem.

My 04 came with 3 buttons. It has a lock/unluck button, a trunk button, and a "panic" button. A lock and unlock button division would make 4 buttons...

Since the install, I have learned to use the button set. To advance to playlists, you hold the "next song" button down for a few seconds to enter the playlist tree. Then hold the "next song" button again for a few seconds to select the playlist. Fairly innovative, given the limited integrated controls they had available. I have since modified my center console to hold my iphone, but now I am working on a more visible implementation. I will update with pictures in the coming month.

With the recent insane devaluation of the CTT model, I'd safely assume it would be WAY cheaper to sell your S and buy a CTT. I've seen 2004 turbo models for sale under $35,000 with ~55k miles. That's the good news about people freaking out about gas prices!

35000$ for a TT ????????? thats crazy.

anyway with all the updates available though years I would go for a 06, and maybe TTS. :) and thats pricey I think.

04 Cayenne Turbo with 68,936 miles

Ebay Item number: 360112070636

buy it now: US $28,995.00

04 Cayenne Turbo with 67,500 miles

Ebay Item number: 140288994572

buy it now: US $29,995.00

And I thought 35 was dirt cheap... wow.

It's pretty easy.

http://www.mobridgeinc.com/node/63 and click on "Porsche install tips" and the instructions start on page 4.

Good product btw, if a tad expensive. Lot of people harass me for how much I spent, but are always impressed how well integrated it is!

The stereo buttons on the steering wheel are thin rubber/vinyl covered plastic. The interior color matching is the rubber/vinyl, and the white lettering and symbols are the hard plastic beneath. To repair the buttons with the same texture and color would probably be extremely difficult. StealthTT has the best idea though, a top quality paint/body place would be your only real bet outside of replacing working hardware.

And tell your other driver to stop picking at it :)

no, afaik there isnt anyone that has done it. also, there isnt ANY shop that provide a supercharger kit. for that I have asked the guys from VF, and they've told me that there wasnt such much interrest on these so, they have decided not to do it, and I guess that will come for other shops as well. It's a shame, cause there are many S owners in the world, I dont know many about production numbers (maybe Loren can turn the light on this one) but I supposed that there are much many PCS than PCTT, and not as many as V6, but I've seen many peoples that dont want to get ridd of the CS. A supercharger kit will be very interesting, and it can squezze big numbers out of these engines. take a look on the kits for X5 4.6 and 4.8. Maybe, if more will post asking for that, they will consider it.

Ilie

With the recent insane devaluation of the CTT model, I'd safely assume it would be WAY cheaper to sell your S and buy a CTT. I've seen 2004 turbo models for sale under $35,000 with ~55k miles. That's the good news about people freaking out about gas prices!

There is a very noticeable "pop" when you have successfully secured the assembly. There is a significant amount of resistance too, so don't be afraid if you need to add more torque than expected. I didn't have a meter handy, but I can say it was less than I use to tighten a lug nut on the wheels, but more than I use to open a jar of jelly. (I know that's a pretty unmeasurable amount, but you get the general idea of torque needed).

MSRP on the setup is roughly $5000 (it's either $4800 or $5800). Either way, I am seriously not interested.

I've now got 2 electrical engineering students contracted from the local university here to work on rebuilding my system to continue using the existing fiber-optic system and stereo controller, but rewiring it with a software based interface on a touchscreen. They have a prototype due up by November 21st as their project for school. Cost to me? Parts! I'm helping them write the interface in an XML based display system developed originally for my work to display a custom UI in an HTML based browser (I intended to use it for HTA style GUI for a non-gui'd program for a huge CLI-driven saw, but carpenters were adamant against making it too easy). I'll be posting pictures if it's not a massive failure.

Symptoms: immediate and dramatic coolant leak. Can pour coolant in and it drains out just as fast from the rear of the engine.

Solution: Under the intake were the black plastic pipes. In may particular case of the three coolant pipes, the larger one next to the intake manifold runner holes had a 7 inch long crack in it. These lines carry coolant at a pressure, and are apparently a known design problem in earlier Cayenne models. Porsche sells a kit for this (14 different parts, including o-rings) for ~$700. The large aluminum piece with the extra parts are all part of the kit to replace the 3 plastic tubes.

Took removing the intake manifold to get to these parts.

(edit coming to add images... soon as I find a compatible browser.)

You know... for about $35,000...

You could get a 2004 Cayenne Turbo.

If you could manage to sell yours for 30k, you'd be better off just swapping vehicles.

Personally, I like the sleeper feel of the Cayenne. Most people around here have zero clue what a CTT is capable of, and it plays to my benefit in all situations. From cops pulling me over (3 times now, and only one gave me a ticket. The other two just kept asking me about the vehicle), to "merging opportunities" to redlight-to-redlight hops, I've enjoyed being quiet and subdued.

If I wanted to be real obnoxious, I'd have gotten something that looks wild instead of something with smooth styling.

I applaud your powertrain approach to modifications, and wish you the best of luck! I've heard the intake and exhaust helps a lot when chipping turbos, but I have no experience to back it up.

At VERY low speed (under 7mph) and around 11-15mph, I get a similar report back. I had the pads checked, and of course I was told to replace them (standard operating proceedure I'd assume for anyone asking about their brakes). I looked at the pads myself, and the wear on the rotors and pads both looked well within normal. There was a lot of brake dust, but I fully know why; maybe I'll slow down when I get too old to have fun!

Isn't 04 use CD for its map, not DVD?

Correct. Should be interesting to see if this part will update the CD models - I was told directly by Navteq and a Porsche tech (eh, he was at the dealership and seemed pretty up to date) that the *only* way I would ever see new maps would be to either A. buy the entire DVD upgrade kit, or B. buy a Garmin.

I'll buy a minivan with spinning rims before I choose either of those options, so clearly this thread has my interest.

http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?a...oad&id=1062

For those of you who aren't members yet, I'd suggest it. Great info is available with a nominal donation. The above link is to the PCM retrofit that includes DVD navigation system for 2004 Cayennes (as well as other 2005 models). I am interested in seeing the price for the whole package including install. If the DVDs are included, don't forget to mention that part since I'll skip that most likely and buy them direct.

Also, I have put in a parts request via Sunset (thanks Loren) and hope it's a part the dealership will install if I buy it from another parts provider. If not, I'm sure I'll be hunting a Floridian down with a PST2 :)

pm me

At lease you guys still have some sort of map to follow. The 04 CS i bought a few months ago didn't even have the CD for the NAV system which made it totally useless. Apperently the previous owner lost it somehow. Anybody would like to give me a copy of the east coast CD then that would be awesome. Thanks!

Has anyone been able to remove the cd based system and install a DVd based system from an 06? What would be involved in this? I may consider upgrading to a Pioneer AVIC unit.

About $2700 to $4000 depending on your current setup, if done by the dealership.

As a follow up, I replaced all four brake pads over the Memorial Day weekend. I also replaced the sensors for all four pads. My sensors indicated the need for a change at just over 40,000 miles. Upon inspection, the front pads were both worn down to the sensors, although they both had 2 - 3 mm of material left. The rear pads had not yet hit the sensors. My rotors were still well within spec and they still looked very good, so I decided to wait until next time to replace those.

Overall, the brake pad change was a pretty simple DIY procedure. The thing that took the longest was finding a good jack point, getting the jack stands in place, etc. Cars with PASM need to have the auto-level program disabled, according to the owner's manual. I followed that procedure before I raised the car.

Once the car was in place, the hardest part was getting the caliper pins out so that I could change the pads. It wasn't too bad, just a little tricky. I used brake-kleen to clean up the parts, then things came out easier.

Interesting. How much would you say you saved with the DIY? I'm not bad, but I move slowly (especially when I'm scared about breaking things that cost WAY too much to fix).

Anybody knows part number for Cayenne 2008 T dashboard (ROW)? How complicated is it to swap from the one I currently have? Thanks in advance

Might I ask what you are trying to do?

$5 says he's going for a turbo dash in an S :)