adamr_ZA

Thanks Max, sent you a PM

oops ... forgot to Welcome you Alastair .... so welcome sir to the Renntech forums! :clapping: (btw im also a bit new here, and new to Porsche)

Hi everyone, my first post here, after reading through all four pages of threads and using the search feature I have been unable to find anything pointing to a second hand buyers guide for the 997 GT3 and I am hoping I can get some pointers.

I am looking at purchasing a second hand 997 GT3 in the near future if the right one can be found for me and I am interested in knowing if there is anything I should be looking out for in the cars maintenance records that has or hasn't been done or if there are any factory recalls / TSB's?? that I should be asking the the seller / dealer about.

I have read a couple of the posts in this area about the Rear Main Seal leak and was surprised to read that it seems the issue has not been rectified as I thought it had only been a problem with the series 1 996 GT3 cars, is this still an issue that needs to be looked at with the 997 model?

Any help pointing me to a buyers guide or general info on what to make sure I check any potential car for before purchase would be greatly appreciated, in all likelihood I will be purchasing a Porsche pre approved second hand car with warranty so hopefully if anything does go wrong it wont be an issue but being forewarned on what to check for may give me a bit more bargaining power.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide

Cheers Alastair

http://www.gtpurelyporsche.com/pastissue.asp?issueID=17 ... this mag had a GT3 997 buyers guide ... does anyone have this article and would love as well if they can scan and post ...

EDIT: i found it ... yay!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.gtpurelyporsche.com/downloadtra...File=997GT3.pdf.

by the way regarding the RMS, the porsche tech replaced it with a 996TT seal, and so far no problem .... people mentioning it reduces HP by 5, i honestly cant see how a seal can do this ...

Absolutely brilliant adamr, thank you so much for the link, this is exactly what I was looking for. So is the RMS a problem I should look out for on the 997 GT3 as well then or were you just unlucky with your car?

Again thanks for the PDF it will help me to pick the right car.

Cheers Alastair

the RMS apparently was pretty common on a lot of GT3's RS included, so i have been told. My particular one used to leak one drop per week ... told the mech about the 996 seal, and he first looked at me stumped! i think he did his own homework and then just put in the 996TT seal

Hi everyone, my first post here, after reading through all four pages of threads and using the search feature I have been unable to find anything pointing to a second hand buyers guide for the 997 GT3 and I am hoping I can get some pointers.

I am looking at purchasing a second hand 997 GT3 in the near future if the right one can be found for me and I am interested in knowing if there is anything I should be looking out for in the cars maintenance records that has or hasn't been done or if there are any factory recalls / TSB's?? that I should be asking the the seller / dealer about.

I have read a couple of the posts in this area about the Rear Main Seal leak and was surprised to read that it seems the issue has not been rectified as I thought it had only been a problem with the series 1 996 GT3 cars, is this still an issue that needs to be looked at with the 997 model?

Any help pointing me to a buyers guide or general info on what to make sure I check any potential car for before purchase would be greatly appreciated, in all likelihood I will be purchasing a Porsche pre approved second hand car with warranty so hopefully if anything does go wrong it wont be an issue but being forewarned on what to check for may give me a bit more bargaining power.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide

Cheers Alastair

http://www.gtpurelyporsche.com/pastissue.asp?issueID=17 ... this mag had a GT3 997 buyers guide ... does anyone have this article and would love as well if they can scan and post ...

EDIT: i found it ... yay!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.gtpurelyporsche.com/downloadtra...File=997GT3.pdf.

by the way regarding the RMS, the porsche tech replaced it with a 996TT seal, and so far no problem .... people mentioning it reduces HP by 5, i honestly cant see how a seal can do this ...

1900 worldwide ... mmm .... im so desperate to know how many worldwide ... the stats i have is 200 in the states and 14 here in South Africa ... LOL!

Yeah, and how many of these have already been wrecked??

thats true and with this car im sure they are a few

12 o clock on the the steering wheel is painted yellow

Can I do this to my Boxster S over the weekend and then call her a "Boxster S RS"????? :D

LOL! ... you just need the "klak-klak-klak" idle sound from the install of a lightweight single mass flywheel then you officially have a Boxster S RS !!!: )

Missed a shift from 2nd to 3rd this weekend while engaging the clutch to early - result = I ground the gears at around 6,000 rpm. Shifting the rest of the day seemed fine but I can't help but think there must be damage (i.e., metal fragments, etc.) that could damage the gearbox/transmission longer term. I have a 997 GT-3 (Mk I) so I know the gearbox is tougher than a standard 997, but probably not immune to damage from grinding gears.

Any suggestions for how to mitigate the situation? Should I change the fluids associated with the transmission (e.g., transmission oil, etc.)?

Any ideas or experience appreciated. Thanks.

my experience with the RS is that if the car is cold the gear changes are tough, but when the car warms up gear change is pretty easy .... i would assume you are allowing your cars oil to warm up before revving it to 6k RPM

doubt you did any damage, but i guess if you do it a few times, then yes you will damage the box ...

I saw one on the track last week, at a PCA DE event. The car was wicked. In the rain too. It was bright green. The plate said "ribbett". :)

What is the main difference between a GT3 and a GT3 RS??

a lightweight single mass flywheel

broader rear track

12 o clock on the the steering wheel is painted yellow

plexi-glass rear windscreen

roll cage

the camber i think is setup more for track use

and they primarily came in 4 colours,

silver with orange wheels and decals

black with orange wheels and decals

green with black wheels and decals

orange with black wheels and decals

1900 worldwide ... mmm .... im so desperate to know how many worldwide ... the stats i have is 200 in the states and 14 here in South Africa ... LOL!

As the title asks how many 997 GT3 RS's have been made in the world

I would agree with having the rms replaced under warranty. Last december I had it replaced on my 07 RS and was told there was some updated spring with the seal and it's not leaked yet. I also have one of the last 08 RSs built (has the newer seal) and have had no leak. Also, when these cars sit the oil can seep around the seal causing the leak. When the car is run, the vacuum tightens the seal up and the leak many times stops. You may want to look for that as well. Good luck!

ok they replaced the seal with a 993/996TT seal ... the mech did his homework before choosing this seal ...

but honestly how on earth can a seal cause 5hp power loss, makes absolutely no sense ...

so lets see how the car handles the seal ...

V10 M5 vs GT3 RS ... how would the Porsche fair? ... im talking straights

thanks Patrick for the info ... the car is now at the Porsche specialist and I will hopefully drive the car back home on Wednesday wiith a maintenance plan and fresh service having been done. (gonna be gritting my teeth waiting for my baby, already do miss her :()

I have already indicated to the manager that the RMS sweat is a common issue on these cars and he indicated that he will liaise with their Porsche specialist technicians on the matter,

1. Has someone who has tried the 996/993 TT seal still experience leaks? (seems to be the solution)

2. Has anyone tried the new 997.2 GT3 RMS? and what's the success on this seal?

(maybe its me but have not seen anyone commenting on the above two points as not having worked)

As per your link Patrick the vacum being faulty now just = more $$$. Sounds to me like people now guessing what could be wrong :) ... id think after two years of the car being on the market there would have been a solution to this problem

Thanks for the welcome Loren ... :)

Am taking the car into a local Porsche specialist who will put the car on a maintenance plan and do the yearly service on the car which includes changing oil with Castrol Edge (that is why the oil question)

Will monitor the oil sweat on the car when the car is back ...

On the smoking:

Every single time i start the car up, it lets out a puff of smoke and thats it, after that she is fine (for the three days i have the car, its been doing this every single day when i start her up) ... so technically not really smoking, just that initial puff of smoke (have had the BMW ///M cars before and am not use to seeing this that's why the silly questions :))

@patrick, wonder if i should just tell the Porsche specialist to rather just leave the seal, if this issue has not been resolved ... will hear what they say

:renntech:

Hi All, im new to Porsche and have purchased a silver/orange 997 GT3 RS, the car has 11000km ... a few observations and i have been told these are normal and just need to confirm them

1. The car smokes on start up? told this is normal

2. The car makes a "glak glak" sound when idling, and when one depresses the clutch it goes away ... told this is normal due to the car having a single mass flywheel

3. Car has an "oil sweat" on the RMS ... seen the other posts wrt this and has there really been a solution? Should i have Porsche change the seal or just leave it?

What are the recommended oils to use in the car (excluding Mobile1)?

Castrol Edge or Castrol TWS motorsport? ... we dont get Mobile1 here in South Africa ...

any DIY links for this car?

Thanks

Adam