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thx1138jtx2

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  1. Dealers will always mark a car high in case some sap poser who hasn't done any research walks in. In most cases you can talk them down, especially on cars that's been sitting there for 60+ days. The 03 C2 I bought was listed online for $32K and I got it for $28. And it came with the CPO warrenty. I was going to buy an extended warrenty anyway so that saved me at least another $2K.

    Look for the car you like with the options you want, decide how much you are willing to pay and give the dealer that price. Then just walk away and wait. It took my dealer 2 weeks to accept my offer, but they did.

  2. Well it took a little longer than I thought but my new toy showed up on Sunday.

    03' C2 Seal Grey, PSM, Heated/Pwr seats, Auto dim, 18"

    Only had a little time to drive, it is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!

    I already bought a Misha GT2M wing that is going to the paint shop tomorrow and a set of alumium pedals. Hopefully the weather gets cleared up (expecting snow/sleet tomorrow night) on the weekend so I can have some fun.

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  3. Just installed it. Why the car doesn't come this way from the factory is a mystery. I can't imagine anyone would prefer rowing but what do I know. Again, great if not mandatory mod. Should be standard.

    Agreed, it's such a significant improvement, you wonder why the standard shifter is and has been such junk all these years.

    We stock the B&M for those who prefer to have a solid as a rock shifter and not spend the dough on the Porsche unit, million mile warranty, etc. I've had both, and like both.

    Enjoy the ride!

    Does installing a B&M SSK void the CPO warranty? From what I have read this is definetly a worth while mod, almost a much have. But I want to avoid any possible issues Porsche might have since it is not a OEM part.

  4. I just went through similar process. The diff on the ones I was looking at (and asked about here) was between 30K and 60K, the 60K being a CPO car. From reading here and talking to couple Porsche service techs, one from the dealer in town and one independent, low miles on a Porsche is not necessarily a good thing. In fact one of the techs told me straight out very low miles is a mark against the car. These cars are made to be driven, if they sit for long periods of time a lot of issues will occur, problems with seals being one of them. And as another poster said I would be worried about how often was the oil and fluids changed and systems flushed.

  5. No doubt at all in my mind, I'd go with the CPO car, (assuming cosmetics/paint/etc are close to equal) but still work on that price. More like $27-28, highest. A car with too few mile after 7 years can almost be more of an issue as the 996 gotchas (RMS, IMS, coolant tank split, etc) may not have manifested themselves yet. On the 61k car, if they were going to happen, they are more like to already have. Or if they did, they've been replaced. PSM, heated seats, Xenons, autodim are worth thousands, especially at resale time. Porsche CPO is excellent. Aftermarket warranties are very touch and go. Go with the CPO, for sure.

    Thank you, those were my thoughts as well. I researched a bunch of extended warranty companies, every one of them have some kind of horror evil stories and pretty expensive. Carchex had the best feedback and would have cost $3314.00 for 2 year 24,000 miles. To me CPO is worth more than that.

    So I pulled the trigger, got the car for $28K. I am just finishing up the paperwork now. Probably not the greatest deal in the world but I think it is fair. It'll take about 10 days for the car to get here. I would have loved to drive it back but would have had to pay tax on it twice. Can't wait for it to arrive.

    Thanks for everyone's feedback!

  6. Is car number 2 being offered for sale by Porsche dealer? The reason I ask is that a Porsche CPO warranty cannot be originated by anyone other than a Porsche dealer; and the CPO warranty cannot be transferred by anyone to a new owner (you) except by a Porsche dealer or the private owner of a CPO'ed car (for a $50.00 transfer fee, in the case of the private owner). This means that a Lexus dealer or the "Auto Mart" dealer cannot advertise (or sell) a previously CPO'ed Porsche with a valid CPO warranty.

    If number 1 car is being offered for sale by a Porsche dealer, I would include a CPO warranty in my negotiations. The CPO warranty itself costs the dealer less than $2,000.00....at least last year it did. (The dealer would have to cover the cost of the CPO inspection and any work/parts neded to bring the car up to "spec" and that might have an impact on your negotiated final price.) And, as of August of 2008, if I recall correctly, the CPO warranty was changed to more nearly mirror the orpginal new car warranty. Stories about dissatisfied after market warranty customers abound here and on other forums.

    www.porsche.com/usa/pre-owned-vehicles/approved/warranty/

    Oh, I'm not affiliated with Porsche....except for having owned two CPO'ed cars.

    Bill

    Car 2 is offered by a Porsche dealer, Car 1 is not. The saleman I spoke to told me CPO is exactly like a new car warranty, everything covered under new car is covered under CPO. I looked at posts here with CPO info and it looks like after 8/2008 it is pretty comprehensive.

    John

  7. Great forum. I posted a question last week comparing deals on 2 996's and got some very pointed suggestions and advice. I really appreciate that.

    I'm looking for a 911 to use mostly as a daily driver, maybe occasionally taking it to a track for some fun. Ten years ago I had a Boxster but give it up after my girls were born (best thing that ever happened to me). I have been missing that power, the handling and everything else that comes with a Porsche, especially the community of people who don't just look at cars as appliances that just take you from point a to point b.

    Anyway, here is another comparison question on 2003 996 C2 Coupes:

    Car 1: 2003, 33K miles, 6 Spd, Silver/Black, lightly optioned (18", that's about it), no service records, asking price $32,000. (Actually there are a few cars with similar mileage/price listed online)

    Car 2: 2003, CPO car, 61K miles, 6 Spd, Grey/Black, options (PSM, heated/pwr seats, Xenon, Auto dim mirror, 18"), asking price $31,800. The dealer has all service records from 14K miles until now, just did the 60K service, new breaks on the back, new tires on the front, and it is CPO so comes with 2 yr, 100K mile warranty.

    So, which one would be your choice? And what about the price, in talking to the dealers it seems both would have some room to negotiate. What in your opinion would be a fair price?

    :renntech:

  8. If neither car has service records I would be cautious. There are so many excellent 996 models out there why buy one with no service records? I f I were buying a used Porsche I would want to buy one from a person who took exceptional care of the car (and had all records..)

    Like Wross said you didn't mention if the cars in question were the same model...C2? C4? C4S?

    :cheers:

    Sorry. Yes they are the same model, C2's.

    Thanks.

  9. New to the forum, great infomation here. So I am in the market for a 2002 - 2004 911 Carrera, money being the deciding factor here for not getting a 997 model. I have seen two that has me interested and wanted to get some expert opinion on which might be the good/better deal. Both are coupes with 6 spd manual. And both have clean Carfax reports.

    First:

    2003, Grey/Grey, 34035 miles, only option I see is heated seats, other than that it is stock. Asking price is $31,888.

    Second:

    2004, Black/Black, 22260 miles, options include PSM, GT3 Aero kit with tail, pwr seats, xenon headlights, 18" carrera wheels, alumium package, hi fi. Asking price is $38,500.

    Neither has service records but both looks clean inside and out.

    thanks in advance for any advice.

    John

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