Dntlvet

Phillip, nice to read your great satisfaction with your 07 Turbo.

I'm thinking of a Turbo S :-) Shopping is fun.

I agree the wheels do make a substantial difference. The car looks quite aggressive.

At least the car is washed by the dealership. I know guys that opt out of the wash to DIY to avoid swirls.

Phillip, you getting an itch? Fun to look and listen.

You will see major track wear.

Curious if the ventillated seats are desirable with the stain issue apparently common.

A 2012 would be fine stock for me at least during the warranty period.

I'd uncover the dishonest member.

It will be nice to see what you finally choose and how it suits (moves) you.

Phillip, just curious; how many miles on the ceramic brakes?

I recently drove a 2011 GT3 with Nose lift and my experience was the same. Perhaps it is designed to stay up at stops. I did not get the light to glow but noticed a slight lift.

Does 1" lift really help?

The 09 TT is a good improvement over the 08TT.

I drove the PDK 4S and it is a nice DD.

Too bad you cannot reach to a 10 PDK TT

I have a lead on a 2002 GT2 and a 2005 GT2.

These are cars that are fun to look at and to drive under the right conditions.

Most are garage queens.

I doubt you could get a 2002 GT2 for 50K unless there are unfavorable conditions of the car.

Have fun looking. Do not expect to buy, enjoy and move into a different car without cost.

Compare the GT2 to the 997 GT3 (drive them) and you will understand why the price points are where they are.

Good luck and be safe. Some call the GT2 the widower.

Hi Jim.... In the 996 category, I've owned a '99 C4, and my current, '04 GT3. Put 50K miles on the C4, and have 31K on the GT3. I'm obviously biased, but, that's what you are asking for. The GT3!! It puts a smile on my face every time I start that race bred engine, shift the race bred g'box, and step on those brakes.

I am also looking at these cars and I do believe GT3 is the most performance orientated.

That car is scarry fast on straights and very sharp with braking. Not a winter car :-)

Definitely decide what you need as well as what you think you want.

Yes...

- if you never hit the rev limiter

- if the DME was replaced and the tech did not transfer the old settings

- if the DME has been "tampered" with

This car is a 997TT so I will move this post to the proper forum.

Thanks Loren for moving the discussion to the correct forum.

Is it possible to have zero at all levels (see attached)

KMBT36220110826163515.pdf

I have my eyes on a couple of used 2010 PDK 911 turbos That are for sale.

General consensus has been to have a PPI on used cars.

Is PPI necessary on a certified car?? Purchasing from another state and wonder how to make a good decision provided I have driven the car previously.

A DME would be great if I knew what it means (interpretation).

Advise requested (Philip, Loren,others)

Thanks

Hi Everyone,...

Hope all you my fellow 911 turbo owners can help me make a sound and smart decision. Indeed your advice and recommendation will make a difference and the unanimous answer will contribute to the purchase of one or the other turbo. 1= TURBO..... 2= TURBO S..... 3= TURBO CAB and.....4= TURBO S CAB.

I currently own a beautiful 997 C4S with lots of options and dealer mods...the car is definitely a head turner but now I am seriously considering getting the jump into TURBO territory. The most important question is going for an regular coupe or is the S really can justify the price difference. I also read people with regular 500hp turbo that put a softronic ECU and exhaust or EVOMS this or that and can get passed the 530hp of the Turbo S. The second question is if the CAB version is visibly slower and if the drive and cornering are less stable than the coupe. In summary should I get a turbo S with the increase in price??...or perhaps just get regular turbo and do a Softronic, exhaust and EVOMS this or that and "really" get even faster than an S. If i can get a great deal on a regular TURBO and be able to get the same performance as an S, by adding just couple simple mods and not getting crazy with too many mods yet gaining more than 30hp, then I would lean towards that option. If you feel that the S is substantially better and faster with its extra 30hp, PVT and ceramic breaks...well maybe I will be convinced to bite the bullet. Also if the CAB drives and corners as good as the coupe...(on roads and highways outside the track). I just want to make a good financially sound decision and see if the S is worth the extra extra $$, or just go for a 2010 or 2011 Turbo with low miles add couple mods and save $$.

Thank you so very much for sharing your honest opinion, expertise, mods on regular TURBO and helping me make a good decision.

Porschester

The answer seems easy ... it depends; on you.

I would guess from your post that the Turbo S would be best to meet your need for speed.

I'd go for the Turbo cab to give top down opportunities.

I'm not so sure that these cars are a very good investment regardless of the configuration.

They depreciate 20K/yr for 3 yrs.

Consider lease if you think you would need to get a newer version.

Just picked up my new 911 Turbo Coupe today. WOW!! What a car! Black with black interior, PDK, PTV, Chrono package and etc.

Launch control is awesome. Can't imagine anything keeping up with this baby?

Very very very nice car. Congrats.

Hope to see your discussion threads about this fine car and your experiences.

There is wealth in the information within this forum discussion threads.

I have interest in the 997 turbos and the GT3. My wife prefers an automatic tranny for 90 city drives.

So to please her, I will go with HER color selection and tranny. But should I seriously consider PDK over the Tiptronic assuming I can afford either tranny?

I would appreciate a basic and accurate description of the difference between Tiptronic & PDK transmissions.

It appears that the 2009 turbos have Tiptronic tranny and the 2009 NON turbos went to the PDK.

Those enthusiasts that love mannual tranny usually dislike the automatic tranny BUT I see more individuals willing to switch from mannual to PDK.

Can someone explain what a torque converter is? I understand the Tiptronic uses a torque converter and the PDK is a different(dual clutch)technology.

Is the PDK better than the Tiptronic & why or why not?

Thanks everyone.

I would find another dealer to evaluate the problem since you are under warrantee.

The diagnosis is being missed.

Why wouldn't you sell it on this forum to another enthusiest?

Dntlver,

Sport Chrono is a MUST is you get a car With PDK, as itgives you 3 different shift mapping patterns when in auto shift mode.

1) Normal: the car will shift as early as possible for maximum comfort and gasmileage

2) Sport: the car will shift later (at higher revs) for a more aggressive/sportyride

3) Sport Plus: very aggressive, transmission will not shift until it reachesred line.

With Sport Chrono, engaging the Sport or Sport Plus button will also change thethrottle mapping so you get more throttle with less movement of the throttlepedal. It can take a while to get used to this, because it makes the throttlepedal more sensitive to input.

I thank those that have replied in this discussion thread.

I am very interested in the 911 Turbo CAB

I'm looking at the 08 and 09s and I think Phillip told me there are a lot of them out there.

They certainly are out there on autotrader, but the 09s are ~120K 08s ~100-110K.

I have learned that the DME is a must part of PPI

and certified cars (from Phillip's experience) are optimal.

I should start a new topic but thought I'd ask if a Zurich Warrantee is good.

I have an Audi dealer looking to sell an 08 911 TT with Zuric Warrantee

for 72mo and 60K miles and the dealer states the zurich wannantee is better than a certified car with respect to coverages and lack of omitted coverages.

Thoughts appreciated!!!

Thanks!!!!... New tires next.... They don't last too long on this beast.

What did you get?

Consider the Bridgestone RE11. Great grip, softer than other R coumpound tires, less choppy.

The RE11s as a track only set up is great.

All around tire would be Michelin Pilot Super Sport!

I had a very nice test drive yesterday of a 2011 Cerrara and a 2010 4S.

The 4S was very much enjoyable. Quick cornering made this car stand out.

I prefer Mannual but both were PDK.

I liked the PDK and the paddle shifter option.

The sports exhaust was ok.

I'm not sure I understand the sport chrono option (benefits).

Tomorrow I will drive an 08 911 Turbo that is NOT a CPO with under 10K miles.

What do I need to know about this car?

The 08 Turbo is priced the same as the 2010 C4S (<1,000 miles).

2010 has warranty turbo does not.

How do I verify the 08 was not over rev'ed?

Any thoughts on a Zurich Warrantee on the 08 911 Turbo?

Thank's

The sport chrono doesn't do a lot on the C2 or C4s other than some suspension tweaks .. You will see a bigger difference with that option on the turbo as it adds some additional torque mid-range.

My wife's DD is a 2011 911TT ... We test drove a 2011 C4s and the only difference was about 115hp and some pretty substantial torque, Other than that the cars were pretty much identical. All of these were 6MT .. We don't do slush-boxes.

I am a firm believer that you don't own a modern P car without a warranty even if you're a DIY'er ... YMMV.

--CC

If PDK was not available, I guess it was a tiptronic.

Is that not a good system?