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Thanks Jim. It's good to know there are no restrictions on the service. I am buying from a Porsche dealer and the CPO was just done by them. So, the warranty will begin when I purchase it. The dealer is about a 7 hour drive from me so I'm strongly considering still having a PPI done by a foreign car shop (just to keep the dealer honest) and then having the car shipped to me. So, if they are following the rules, the dealer cannot give it a CPO if the overrevs have exceeded level 3 right?
Anyone out there have an opinion on this? The 987.2 Cayman's should be capable of 200+K miles right? (with proper maintenance) So, I'm leaning toward the CPO but just wanted to get others' thoughts. I an concerned that the CPO might not be all its cracked up to be if the small print requires all oil changes to happen at a Porsche dealership or something crazy like that. However, I haven't been able to find the fine print out there anywhere....
Well, I ended up deciding not to buy this car just because there are so many mixed messages out there and my two local shops both warned against buying a 2006 - 2008 Cayman. So, I'm searching for the right 987.2 now.
I posted recently about a 2007 Cayman I was looking at but I decided not to go for it after two different local shops warned against buying a 987.1 (I know there is plenty of debate over that in other posts). Regardless, I have decided to start looking at 2009+ Caymans. I've found a couple of cars that are basically the same price. One of them has 48K miles. The other has 68K miles but it is Certified Pre-owned which means it will effectively have a 2yr / 32K mi warranty (odometer + 50K, but they cap it at 100K). 68K is definitely more miles than I was initially looking for, but the CPO is certainly appealing. I will be using this car as my "daily driver". However, I don't drive a car every day. I make a few small trips here and there during the week to the store or restaurant and then once per week I drive about 100 miles round trip for work. So, at this point, I'm probably putting about 6k-7k miles per year on my car. So, I would basically get 2 years of warranty because there's no way I'll put 32K mi on the car in 2 years. Anyone have an opinion on this?
Thanks Ewest112, I appreciate that. Honestly, the more I look at Cayman's, the more I love them. So, other than not having the rear seat (which I rarely use in my existing car), I may even be starting to prefer the Cayman. I'd still love to have an older 911 (60's / 70's) as a second car, but I think I'd be totally happy with a Cayman. How expensive was your IMS failure?
Thanks for your help! I agree, I don't believe everything I see of course, but in my research online, "Pedro" seemed to be thought by many to be a reputable source of information. Unfortunately, I don't have access to numbers regarding the installed base and long term performance of any of these solutions and as you probably know there is a lot of conflicting information out there. Do you have access to any of those stats? Have you seen any engine failures as a result of the IMS problem in your shop after removing the seal? Thanks again :)
....also, can I trust the dealer to be able to determine during a pre-purchase inspection if damage has already been done due to the IMS problem? ... it seems there isn't an easy way to check the condition of the oil without actually starting to drain the pan right?
Thanks JFP :) Hmmm... The video from Pedro on the DOF solution seemed pretty convincing. I think he even commented on removing the seal and said that the problem was that the oil would be immediately ejected from the bearing. However, if you are correct in just needing to remove the seal, that seems like that wouldn't be too bad. Would you say that I'd be looking in the $1500 - $2000 range for replacing the clutch (might as well right?) and removing the seal for that piece of mind? Do you have an opinion on the cost of engine rebuild / replace in the case of total engine failure? Lastly, is there a list somewhere as a resource on this site to help me find someone who is qualified to either implement the IMS solution or remove the bearing seal? I looked at the theimssolution.com website and the closest installer to me is over 4 hours (and 2 states) away in Allentown, PA.
Hi everyone, this is my first post. Ever since I was a kid, I've always wanted a Porsche. 911 is out of my price range and although I think Boxster's are cool, I've never been a convertible guy. So, that leaves the Cayman. I love the look of it and I test drove one yesterday and had a blast driving it. However, I'm very concerned about the IMS / oil starvation issues I've been reading about. The car has 48K miles on it and is listed at $23,999 (the price is somewhat negotiable). It would be my primary vehicle (I also have an 84 Toyota Landcruiser FJ60). However, I work from home mostly and only make one trip to my office weekly which is a round trip of about 90 miles. So, I'll be putting around 6K miles per year on the car. I read somewhere that the odds of actually having a failure in a 2006-2008 was something like 1 in 100, but I've read conflicting information on that. I can afford the payments and to pay more for maintenance than I have on my other cars in the past (Ford, Nissan, VW, etc.), but a total engine failure would be devastating and I don't have that kind of cash lying around (without dipping into retirement savings or something crazy like that). So, does anyone know the real likelihood of failure and if there is anyway to easily determine if the DOF solution has already been installed? Also, anyone have an estimate on what it would cost to install the DOF? There also doesn't seem to be any clear info on rebuilt engines out there. I just see a wide range of estimates from $10K - $20K. 10K might not be TOO bad, but 20K...yikes... If I can't feel confident in the 2007, I guess I'll just have to wait and maybe find a good deal on a 2009+. Thanks :)