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  1. Based upon the pictures, that should fit a standard car since it's the same muffler design; 996GT3 and 996 narrow body use the same rear bumper. Racer S, keep us updated with the results, it looks like a quality piece that isn't commonly used.
  2. You're arguing your hypothetical. I actually did the swap. But yeah, keep arguing your point. :cheers:
  3. Again, your pricing is waaay off. I spent nowhere near $10k on the build and my M96 didn't sell anywhere near $10k. Like I said, the M96 covered the costs. I didn't charge myself an hourly rate, which is the most expensive part of the swap if you have someone else do it. If you can't find a shop at $150/hr, then don't expect to spend that much on the swap. :thumbup:
  4. You two are really missing the point. If you go to an expensive shop, where you're paying $150+/hr for labor, and depending on which LSx motor purchased; the swap could cost $20k. If you do the swap in your garage with a used engine, the swap will be significantly less money. My swap was covered by the sale of my car's M96, which sold within the average price range JFP stated earlier in the thread. Here's a breakdown of the costs: Renegade kit: $4000 LSx longblock with accessories: $100-$10,000 Wiring kit: $500 Misc: $500 Depending on how you play it, the n/a 996 can get an additional 50hp and 100ft-lbs of torque for no additional cost by swapping to an LSx. The LSx responds well to aftermarket cams, n2o and boost; the 996 has lots of room for turbos with the LSx swap. So depending on what power levels are wanted, the LSx can compete with the same power output as the 996TT for a fraction of the cost per hp. Also, you guys think a '99 c2 with 128k miles sells for $20k in stock form? :lol:
  5. If you paid a top dollar shop to do the swap, the labor charges can add up. In my specific case, the swap cost was covered by the sale of my M96. It's really not that hard to wrap your head around.
  6. Not at all, but you are vastly over estimating what a replacement M96 can cost. My comment was based on your $4,000-$7,000 figure. Three pages into the post and you still seem to have trouble focusing. Whether he was joking or not, white out was talking about putting an LS engine into a 996. The purists I was referring to are the ones that would think it sacrilegious stuffing a Chevy engine into a Porsche. Talk about missing the point. Anyway, there are only a few hours left in the year. Maybe you'll learn to not let things bother you too much in '15. Happy New Year, all! :D Being "sacrilegious" never entered into the conversation. The LS swap is an expensive proposition that typically ends up both reducing the resale value of the car as well as dramatically shrinking the pool of potential buyers for the car; all of which is purely economic rather than religious in nature. I sold my LS swapped '99 996C2 coupe with 128k miles for $25,000 in 2013. While the swap dramatically shrunk the pool of potential buyers, it did get coverage on a national TV network, tens of thousands of views online, and sold in about a month. http://996ls1.blogspot.com/
  7. I think you underestimate how cheap an LSx and PCM can be found for. Biggest cost is the KEP engine/trans adaptor and engine mount (renegade if you buy it).
  8. I posted jokingly. But for an M96 replacement, the LS swap is a good option. Depending on how you go at it the swap can cost the same as a replacement M96 or $20k.
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