Roli Savvaris

In the pictures above we see how the car is every day. I think it is some kind of panel which is needed to hide all these cables and provide protection from engine heat coming into the vehicle. I hope someone can help me identify this panel so that I can be able to order and buy it as it is absolutely necessary. Thanks.

I haven't heard any noises since then. I just don't feel the cool as cool as I want,... maybe I need to recheck the fuses again,... or maybe it needs ac gas

Anybody have an idea of what I need?

Hi Stu, Did you manage to fix your speakers?

Anyone any ideas? Thanks

I forgot the link from where I bought my 5 litre cheap lube,... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260949350850?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D260949350850%26_rdc%3D1#ht_1632wt_1271 60 pounds sterling for 5 litres (this includes the 15 pounds of shipping costs) work around 12 GBP per litre. Most people in UK buy each litre for around 18 GBP so 30% more than what I paid. It is good to have this 5 litre in the boot as you never know when the led will light up unless you look into your engine every now and then. Also, try to keep your 400 ml little bottle handy as it is easier to fill the right amount of tube than using the 5 litre bottle. What I do is pour 400ml from 5 litre to the 400 ml bottle and then from the 400 ml bottle into the lubricant box in the engine compartment.

Tyre shaped tanks have a capacity of I think 40 or 50 litres so really it works out to be 35 or 40 litres of filling

Tyre shaped tanks are no good on this car unless you have a petrol station with lpg round the corner of where you live and you are not interested in long lpg journeys,...

More notes: The Battersea boys told me that it would be better that the rubber tubing coming out from the injector into the engine tubes (inlet pipes - don't know what they are but you get the picture) should have been shorter. The shorter the distance the better the efficiency apparently. I am not a pro so I am only writing what I heard,... Also,... Make sure to install a big tank in the boot. Mine is a 100 litre tank. It normally fills to a maximum of 80 litres as petrol stations stop the maximum to their settings,... some fill this to 90 litres, but I have heard this in not good as when the temperatures are high the lpg expands,... so when i fill 90 litres I make sure I am travelling a bit first to make it go to the normal safe level which is 80 litres. Otherwise best to keep it in the shade I guess. Not a pro as mentioned, just stuff I've read here and there. There are other types of tanks, in a tyre shape, which go instead of the spare tyre, but this car has the bose system so there is a big bass unit the size of a small tyre instead of a spare wheel. Make sure your installers fit the tank in a way that the boot floor can be lifted so that you get access to the bass system, because you have important stuff there such as the tyre bolts and pick up equipment in case you need to raise your car to remove a wheel. My car doesn't have a spare wheel and I didn't have a tyre repair kit when one tyre went flat. Although I used the car pump system (special unit that fits under the driver seat and works like having an air pump at a petrol station) the hole was so big all the air was coming out so quickly I couldn't move the car to a tyre shop. That was too bad for me as I had to lift the one side of the car and remove the wheel and leave the car at the mercy of bad kids not to kick the thing that was holding the car up in the air which would seriously damage the car (I know I always think of bad senarios!!!!!) but luckily I was in a nice quiet city with good people. I then had to take the wheel by cab to a tyre shop. The Michelin Diamaris 275 40 20 N1 tyres are so rare in shops that I had to get a used dunlop till I got to my destination where I immediately bought a brand new Michelin since the other 3 where nearly new. Porsche had recommended that they install 2 Pirellis instead since they didn't stock the Michelin,... Why pay for 2 types you don't like since you already have a perfect best one,... I was disapointed Porsche don't have this tyre n stock since the N1 means tested and approved by Porsche,...Why insist on Michelins? well ask anyone and you will find that bullet proof cars only use Michelins, but that is off topic stuff,.. maybe I'll write something about it in another thread. I still don't have a tyre repair tube kit because the one I saw said highly flamabe and I often leave the car in direct sunlight,... don't know if it is safe to keep them in the car or if there are special porsche stuff I need to buy,... Anyways,... enjoy your new ride, as with the lpg you will have a completely different car when you want. 1 for the big spender side of you and another for the economy and environmentally side of you :)

I forgot to add,... I bought 2 special filler adapters from the Battersea Gas company. 1 type is good for Belgium (maybe France too) and most of Germany, and the other adapter is good for the remaining of Europe. They don't cost much, about 10 pounds sterling each. What you do is once you remove the filler cap with the key you screw on the adapter and then it is like if you are on a country specific filler tap. Very useful for European journeys.

A few notes on the pictures: The tap on the filler has a lockable key, this option is only suitable for UK bayonet fixtures. This is very useful because I had the simple turn lock one which can be removed by kids on the street. That didn't happen to me but somethinng else did. I had removed mine while filling and placed it on the fuel pump at the petrol station and forgot to put it back on. Had I not gotten a new one dust would go inside and obviously something bad would happen. This one needs a small key to remove and as you remove it the tap stays on the key which is on the same keyholder as the car keys so there is no way I will ever forget it at a petrol pump,... (I hope not!!!!!!!) I removed the engine cover so you see how they have done the piping for the lubricant: apparently this is wrong as was explained to me by the Batersea Gas people. I have a feeling they are right because with normal driving the lubricant lsts long however when I use the car as a beast it seems to me that it sucks up all the juice,... something do do with the pipes and vacuum as was explained to me,... if you find out any more on this topic from your installers please let me know,... I took a pic of the injectors and how they are installed,... as noted before these are special power handling injectors due to the 450bhp. These were upgraded from the previous owner as the initial ones couldn't handle the full power. Next, the lubrication kit is fitted under a side engine compartment cover where the battery terminals are so that they fit nicely. All I need to do is unscrew 2 plastic screws easily with a key to fill the lubricant when the red led lights up. You will also notice a silver small box back there,... that is where you control how much lubricant you want released through the system. It was set on 8 from the lpg euro gas company when they fitted it but I reduced it to the number 4 seting as I wanted to economise the lubricant. Some Polish installer said the lubricant is of no use at all as lpg is much cleaner etc,... but I say it is better safe than sorry so even half the dose is good enough for me. Again good luck. I am looking forward for your comments and any feedback you get from your installers. :) Take care, Roli

I will take a couple of pics for you and post them. I'll need about 10 mins because I will also have to resize them for the forum.

Fuel filler cap is mounted on rear side bumper down low while the fuel gauge is located where the cupholders were located, now used as a keyholder instead. I think it would have been nicer to have both in other locations. I have seen some people filling beemers from a proper fuel door, although I don't know how they managed to fit both in there!!!!!! Also the use of cupholders is more important than being able to hide a little nice fuel gauge (and the lubricant led on top of it) If I could, I would have tried to use the a/c console,... there are a few buttons there that have no use whatsoever,... I don't know if it is easy to get them wire and place the led light and gauge there and how complicated that would be,... maybe some members like Loren could guide you to as if that thing is possible.

Good luck Ger and happy savings both for your pocket and as a carbon footprint :)

By the way the best site that I know for UK approved lpg installers and petrol pumps etc is the following: http://www.drivelpg.co.uk/

I only bought a couple of European adapters from the above people at Batersea Autogas. They seemed to know there stuff more than the previous people which installed the manual and automatic systems and made some comments about the way the flashlube pipes not being installed properly but I cannot know if it is just for a new installation or from their experience although they seemed to be honest but I simply refused to pay another couple hundred pounds after putting the standard automatic a few weeks before that!!! They said they also did many cayenne turbo conversions, but seeing is believing and I do have the original papers showing the initial lpg went into the vehicle in 2009 and the engine is running perfectly (Thank God) without any noises or anything else.

Battersea Autogas I & C Investments Ltd 1 - 4 Elcho Street Battersea, SW11 4AU Telephone: 0208 871 2233 Email: batterseautogas@gmail.com Web: www.lpg-car-conversion-london.com Systems Installed: BRC Prins Romano Bigas LovatoNLP OMVL Systems Serviced: BRC Prins Romano AEB AFCAldesa Auto-Gaz Centrum Bedini BigasEmmegas ICOM KME Landi Renzo LimaLo-Gas Lovato Marini Necam NLPOMVL Star Gas Stefanelli Tartarini VialleVoltran

Oh, also for the flash lube, initially it was a mechanical flashlube system but you have to manually check when to top it up. Now it is an automatic flashlube make, which has a red led which lights up when it needs 400ml of flashlube. Apparenly there is a more advanced one from what one mechanic told me. It is again a flashlube automatic make but it has a pump built into it and is the new generation type.

I drive a 2005 Cayenne Turbo (450BHP) The on-board computer showed 20-22 mpg when I was driving on lpg however I had to do the actual mpg by filling up the lpg a few times and writing the mileage and litres used each time. Here is the data I got from 5 refills after the fuel was full from the start. 44.21 litres of lpg = 9.724 UK Gallons did 143 UK miles. This was 14.7mpg which also equates to 19.216 litres per 100 km and due to the lpg costing 50% less than petrol this means that 29.4mpg equivalent or in km consumption it equates to 9.6 litres per 100km. I will continue the rest of the data without the above explanations: Refill 2: 72.95 litres = 16.05 UK Gallons did 209 miles. Therefore 13 mpg (UK figures for all as it is a UK car, the US gallons are different so you will need to do some maths for that,... a converter online will help) or in km it spent 21.7 litres/100km. Due to the 50% cost works similar to 26miles per gallon or 11 litres per 100km. Refill 3: 55.98 litres = 12.31 gallons did 167 miles. Therefore 13.57 mpg or 20.8l/100km. With the 50 price cost reduction of lpg it equates to 13.57mpg or 10.4 litres/100km Refill 4: 47.58 litres = 10.46 G did 182 miles. Thus 17.39 mpg or 16.243 l/100km. With 50% less costs is similar to 35mpg or 8.1 litres per 100 km Refill 5: 68.93 litres = 15.16 Gallons did 218 miles. Thus 14.37 mpg or 19.657 litres per 100 km. Taking into account that lpg costed me 50% less than petrol then the figures equate to 28.8 mpg or in other words 9.8 itres per 100 km. The best figure was refill number 4. All depends on how you drive your car. It can be smooth and on cruise control only motorway. It can be a beast on a German no limits motorway (doing 275 km/hour) or it can be anything in between with commutes in cities, stopping to buy smokes while the aircon keeps the passengers happy etc. Most of my journey was on a motorway although I did visit a few cities here and there, but didn't do the stopped car with aircon mentioned above as I wanted to see the normal running costs. I took pics of all receipts which included prices and litres, and at each fillup I took a pic of the mileage. On top of all the above, lpg is much greener (environmentally friendly) than petrol or diesel. Some figures are 95% down on pollutants and others on 30% down. Check the internet and you will see the clear difference of particles etc. This was the reason that the City of London exempted LPG vehicles from paying the congestion charge for some time, and they still offer free parking permits for eco-friendly vehicles (annual parking permit costs about 120 pounds sterling) Moreover, having driven diesel vehicles in the past, I can confirm,... I always used to stink of desel. everything smelled diesel to me, even my hands after refilling as in the UK you have to fill the car yourself. Add the terrible diesel engine noise which did my head in and gave me headaches in comparison to the 0 noise engine I hear from this beast (on idle,... not on using it like a sports monster which noise is good) then you will understand that moving from a 320merc diesel to a 4.5l twin turbo Porsche is something like moving from hell to paradise in some wierd kind of way. thumbs up for Porsche engineers. Long live the Porsche.

Here are a few pictures I hope they help. Unlike the diagram above, please note this is a UK car so the steering wheel is on the right hand side, the passenger sits on the left hand side. The trim should be black, and I don't know if it was originally leather although down there it wouldn't make a difference if it was plastic,... Thanks for your help. Oops here are the pics as I forgot to attach them,...

Hi. No I have item 34. The one I need is further down. It is a panel which gets removed in order for the technician to put the piwis cables I believe. It must be bigger than 34 by a lot as it covers everything behind the pedals I guess. That is why the hot air is coming through. I will take a picture now and post it to see if that helps.

LPG has a higher octane rating than unleaded. If you get it done properly, and make note not everyone knows how to do a right job on a cayenne turbo, you will get the same thrill from lpg as with petrol. any difference from 450bhp to 442bhp,... not at all. Moreover, if you want to race it you can always switch the button to petrol if 8bhp counts for you, only you'll be spending twice as much money for that extra 0.01 seconds of acceleration. I can confirm that running within the limits on a motorway although I do about 17mpg (UK gallon) this equates to 34mpg due to the lpg costing half as much per litre of fuel than petrol. This means my supercar is doing better mpg than an X5 3 litre diesel car,... and anytime I like I put my foot on the gas and beat the 911 and 911S on LPG!!!!!!!!!!! I don't mess with the cayenne turbo S as it is more powerfull or the 911 turbo, but not many cars out there come close to this car which becomes a beast in sport mode with or without pcm on. Ocassionally you will get a few souped up subaru sti's showing off but look inside and you are driving a porsche in comparison to cheap cloth seats and you can still beat them. The only thing is that you need to visit the petrol station twice as much, so having a 100 litre tank in the boot makes sense, you will miss half your boot but it is worth it. Unless you carry boxes and need the boot space. Make sure the installer has installed lpg on cayenne turbos before and see for yourself if you can that no difference in power is there. There is a youtube video of a Polish turbo doing 275 km/h on lpg which is the max you would also get on petrol. That guy knows his stuff. The turbo version needs special injectors to handle the 450bhp, and it needs a professional installation. The lpg was done on 2009 on my CT and runs so smoothly like it was done yesterday. You need to service it once a year. You need to buy the lubricant from e-bay in Germany as it is much cheaper than in the UK.

Hmmm Something similar happened to me today! It was 36 degrees Celcius. I put the AC on Auto with temp at 19.5 and it worked for a few seconds on the max air out put and all of a sudden it quit working but there was normal air coming out through the back seat vents. As soon as I manually reduced both left and right air flow in the front the AC started working again but the coolness was not as powerful as it usually is. I was very upset. After parking the car 30 minutes later and swimming I went back to the car a couple of hours later and the AC was working fine on AUTO. I did hear a wierd noise from the engine compartment when all this began!!!! I hope it doesn't happen again.

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Hi, My fuel door lock does not work when I lock the car. I have LPG so I don't use the fuel door much but I am worried that thieves might steal my petrol since it is pretty easy to syphon the fuel dry. The main problem I have is that I have a 100 litre gas cylinder in the trunk and therefore it is hard to get to the wall of the trunk to see if I can fix it as I have seen some posts on the topic. I was thinking of replacing the original screw on tap with a lockable one but in the Porsche manual it says that only original porsche taps are permitted. Is there any Porsche lockable tap available, and if not, will I be able to safely use a different brand lockable tap? Thanks, Roli