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Yes I agree removing the alphabet soup from the back would be the first thing I would do on mine when I get one....I agree that a simple 911 or Carrera S would be much classier...I wouldnt go for 991 as this is the series number...just like I wouldnt put 997 on the back on mine. The car also looks more dynamic and the wheels even tho they are 19inch the ones you see on the red one above make the wheels look more they are 20...a good visual trompe l oeil as 19 inch generally feel and drive much better than 20....so having a wheel design that make the wheels look bigger than their 19 inch size will definitely please a few of us. Again..looking at the comparative pix above. The back I think is very updated....Porsche almost gives us that woawww prototype factor and keeps it in its final production design....a definite treat
Overall the car looks more aggressive...both from the front and rear....the inside cabin has been refined a few notches with certain Panamera like elements while still keeping the dashboard somehow true to its 911 design legacy. Although Porsche makes the best use of every pony they include in the engine performance, I personally still think that both the regular and S 991's should have come with a little more HP....in my book I would have transferred those 385HP from the current 997S to the new 991...and gave lets say 435HP to the new 991S......perhaps 991.2..we shall see.... I have all the intend with some blessings to get a 991 within 18months after it hits the showrooms.....my only concern is this quote: Porsche says steering feedback won't be affected by the new electric steering...but I will be test driving one...as soon as it hits the showrooms to compare the new electric steering feedback.
Hi Loren... Thanks for re positioning my topic in the appropriate section...frankly I didn't even realize that a "News,Information and Rumors" section existed on our forum. Good to know now. Isnt it the video teaser a true teaser...!!!
2012 Porsche 9911 Carrera S Review, Specs, & Pictures It is no big secret that a redesigned seventh-generation 911 will appear in 2012. The 991 will premiere in 911 C2 and C2S forms, while the Turbo, C4, C4S, GTS, Black Edition, and 918 Spyder Edition variants continue in their current form for at least one more year. If history tells us anything about the future, which it always has a way of doing, the 991 will be available with all-wheel drive in 2013, Turbo and GT3 trims by 2014, and in GT2 guise by 2015, although Porsche may be pushing for an accelerated schedule. Some will mutter that the 2012 911 hasn’t changed enough, but most will expect nothing less. Although its iconic shadow remains, big changes reside within. The new 991’s wheelbase stretches out a further 3.9 inches compared to the 997, but overall length has only grown by two inches. This means that the front and rear overhangs have been shortened and the engine sits more mid than rear compared to its predecessor. Rear legroom has also increased and the A-pillar and windshield have been pushed forward and thus have a stronger rake. Despite being bigger, the 991 weighs less than the 997 due to extensive use of aluminum. Not only does the new 991 weigh less, engine changes produce more power while reducing fuel consumption and lowering emissions by 16 percent. The increase in efficiency comes from a host of new technologies including an automatic start-stop function, electrical system recuperation (most likely through the brakes), new electro-mechanical power steering, and the world’s first seven-speed (yes, that is a seven) manual transmission. The engine in the base 911 Carrera shrinks in size from 3.6 to 3.4 liters but power is up five for an even 350 hp. The 911 Carrera needs only 4.4 seconds to sprint from a standing start to 60 mph with the PDK transmission. The optional Sport Chrono Package’s Launch Control function shaves that time down to 4.2 seconds. For comparison, Porsche says the outgoing 911 Carrera requires 4.5 seconds to accomplish the same feat. There is also a slight disparity in top speeds, with the 2012 Carrera besting the 2011 car by one mph with a top speed of 179 mph. The 3.8-liter engine’s reworked internals in the S model help it produce 15 more horse for a total of 400. As would be expected, its times are a hair above the base car, requiring only 4.1 seconds with the normal PDK transmission and 3.9 seconds with the optional Sport Chrono Package to reach 60 from a stop. Top-track speed for the 911 Carrera S is 188 mph. The new 911 features increased agility thanks to its wider front track and a reworked rear suspension. Porsche says steering feedback won’t be affected by the new electric steering but every Porschephile in the room should be worried that its nearly telepathic handling has been altered. Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC), which first appeared on the 2011 Cayenne, helps reduce roll when cornering and keep the tires planted to the road. Inspired by the Carrera GT, the interior of the 991 has also been heavily revised as well. It includes such features as a high-mounted gear selector and an instrument cluster with five round gauges, one of which holds a high-resolution multifunction screen. The first new 911 models will arrive in February of 2012. The new 911 Carrera Coupe will have a base MSRP of $82,100, while the 911 Carrera S Coupe will start at $96,400. Vehicle SpecsBase Price $96,400Engine 3.8-liter F-6Horsepower 400 hp @ 6,500 rpm (estimated)Torque 310 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm (estimated)Transmission 7-speed manual, 7-speed PDK0–60 mph 4.1 seconds PDK, 4.3 seconds manual (estimated)Top Speed 188 mph PDK, 190 mph manual (estimated)Weight 3,119 lb (estimated)Length 179 inches (estimated)Tires Front: 235/35ZR-19, Rear: 295/30ZR-19 (estimated)FOR New 991 generation debuts for 2012AGAINST Does the 911 need big changes? http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/NewsCenter/NewsCenterDetails.aspx?mmysid=4098
Hello fellows and Porsche lovers, The wait was brutal and the anticipation newsworthy. Porsche and Apple are somehow similar in their business dealing...they make you wait and wait and wait and let you search and speculate until the last minute...then they tease you...make you drool a little more before finally releasing the next product or update. For all of us Porsche owners and iphone users you can relate. Perhaps some of you may have already seen some newer images of the 991 that have been released in the last couple days or so on a variety of sites. Well...I wanted to share with my Porsche community fellows a few pictures that were giving to me by a source extremely close to Porsche the company. Like I said, perhaps some of them have already been out there, but regardless, I got them, compiled them....and I am now happy to share them with you. I would love to hear your initial comments for those of you who are seeing these pictures for the first time. Personally I think that the wait was well worth it...both the regular Carrera and its more potent S sibling are a visual success. In my opinion...Porsche did it again....a great legendary car made even greater...visually I think that the car is spectacular, both on the outside and inside the cockpit...now lets wait for hands on the wheel to actually take our new 991 to the road.....but then again...can we expect anything less than a woaww smiling factor and driving experience once we can to that point??...I personally doubt it.... Enjoy!!
But since I do not track my 997 and the car has been perfectly aligned...I guess I wont need the dog bone....I spoke again to TWC and they said that the alignment is a mechanical process...so if the car can be successfully aligned to factory specs after being lowered then the dog bone would not be necessary. They concurred that IF they would have not been able to bring the alignment to factory specs then yes a dog bone kit would have been the option. Thank you very much for your input Paul.
Hi Everyone,... Hope all you my fellow 911 turbo owners can help me make a sound and smart decision. Indeed your advice and recommendation will make a difference and the unanimous answer will contribute to the purchase of one or the other turbo. 1= TURBO..... 2= TURBO S..... 3= TURBO CAB and.....4= TURBO S CAB. I currently own a beautiful 997 C4S with lots of options and dealer mods...the car is definitely a head turner but now I am seriously considering getting the jump into TURBO territory. The most important question is going for an regular coupe or is the S really can justify the price difference. I also read people with regular 500hp turbo that put a softronic ECU and exhaust or EVOMS this or that and can get passed the 530hp of the Turbo S. The second question is if the CAB version is visibly slower and if the drive and cornering are less stable than the coupe. In summary should I get a turbo S with the increase in price??...or perhaps just get regular turbo and do a Softronic, exhaust and EVOMS this or that and "really" get even faster than an S. If i can get a great deal on a regular TURBO and be able to get the same performance as an S, by adding just couple simple mods and not getting crazy with too many mods yet gaining more than 30hp, then I would lean towards that option. If you feel that the S is substantially better and faster with its extra 30hp, PVT and ceramic breaks...well maybe I will be convinced to bite the bullet. Also if the CAB drives and corners as good as the coupe...(on roads and highways outside the track). I just want to make a good financially sound decision and see if the S is worth the extra extra $$, or just go for a 2010 or 2011 Turbo with low miles add couple mods and save $$. Thank you so very much for sharing your honest opinion, expertise, mods on regular TURBO and helping me make a good decision. Porschester
Is it a regular turbo or a turbo S you have?? The book is crazy. It reads something like 2K miles. I've always given my cars between 500-900 miles before really beating on them. I'm not sure if it makes any difference. I just focus on varying the revs. I go up to 3-4.5K and back down and back up (rinse and repeat : ). I never stay at any steady speed for an extended period of time. It helps to utilize the paddles because you have full control. I would not use the launch control until at least 500 miles. I'm going to play it really safe with this car, because of my large investment, and wait until 1K. I tried Sports Plus once at about 25mph and holly sh&*t the revs jumped to over 4K and the car threw me back in my seat. It's really tough to find a place on long island to safely use this car, so for me I have no issue waiting a few extra miles. One thing is for sure. This car can more and I believe every bit of the 2.9 sec 0-60 and 11.01 sec 1/4 mile times (on YouTube). I'm still shocked that it is faster than my Z06. Good Luck with your 911!! Let me know how you make out with Launch Control!
I did the rear light conversion, and obviously I had to change the rear bumper as well. I didnt do the front because I have a GT3 front bumper and love the look. If I can somehow have the front lights also converted to led without having to change the bumper,I would do it.
Would the conversion be possible on my GT3 front bumper?? Thanks
Is the price of $2500-$3000 quoted for BOTH front and rear conversion??
Hi Everyone, I have a 997 C4S that has been lowered (stock suspension) Champion springs. Unfortunately the Collection in Miami did not do an alignment. I realized that my back tires were getting worn out very quickly...In less than 10,000 miles I ran thru 2 sets of rear Michelin Pilot PS2's. During a visit to AWD Motorsport with a friend of mine, the shop put the car on a lift and and it was visible that once again the tires needed to be changed. They told me that because the 997 already have a negative camber to begin with, but lowering it and not aligning the car would accentuate more negative camber and ware the tires even faster. They added that the stock cambers on the 997 are not adjustable and suggested that I should install their kit called THE DOG BONE and that my Porsche would drive better and the tires last longer after of course a post DOG BONE installation alignment. Couple days later, I took my car to TWC for a set of four new Michelin tires, I briefed them on my situation and they said that if they could successfully align the car to factory specs that I would definitely not need any DOG BONE camber Kit and save myself around $800. Could anyone give some feedback about this..I wouldnt mind having the DOG BONE camber kit installed if indeed it would help with the driving and more importantly prevent my tires from being eaten very fast. The car has now new tires and of course TWC was able to successfully aligned the car. They showed the before and after pictures...and perfectly aligned the car . In summary..any advice on the DOG BONE and if i still need it. Thank you very much for all of your expertise and advice. Porschester Here is a pix and description of the DOG BONE Developed and tested over thousands of miles of racing and street driving. Our fully adjustable rear dog bones are the highest quality links on the market period,made of machined aluminum billet rod (6061) hard anodized and include Indy car rod ends. This is a great way to improve the handling and feedback from your Porsche. Our rear dog bone kit is the only proper way to correct the rear geometry of your lowered 996 & 997 Porsche. If your car is lowered, chances are you are prematurely wearing out your rear tires with the additional negative camber you have in the rear. The factory eccentric rear does not offer enough adjustment to properly re-align your car to specs. Our links allow you to properly correct the geometry of your rear suspension. - 4 Links ,8 rod ends and 16 machined bushings. - Requires NO modification to chassis, direct bolt on replacement part. - Can be used on daily driven street cars, links do not transmit road harshness into the cabin. Fitment: 996TT/GT2/GT3/C2/C4/C4S 997TT/GT2/GT3/GT3 RS/C2 /C4s Please contact us for pricing. * Installation, alignment, track setup, and corner weighing is available at our facility.
Hi TNC.......No the C4S and T4S dont come with a short shifter pre-installed. I have a 997 C4S and it did not come with a short shift, I had to buy one from Porsche and have them install it. Definitely a well worth it option. You go through the gears with less distance and more precision. Cheers... Porschester