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Sorry for late reply ;^) prices for used porsche engines has gone way up since I did my conversion 10 years ago. they are now averaging 9-12k for an engine. When I did my conversion I got the engine for closer to 6-7k with my old engine and a core exchange. .. The Labor took about 40 hours. So multiply that by the hourly rate of your favorite mechanic, but figure about 4k for labor... Now... I would not necessarily do this conversion at today's prices and with the prices of 2007 987 Boxster S /Cayman S 3.4 liter cars selling for 20-25k.... I would just buy a 2007 boxster S now instead. 10 years ago it was a different story for the 70k price 3.4 liter Boxsters and caymans were going for. My conversion seemed like a reasonable project at that time. Not so sure now. all depends on what you can get the car and engine for now. hope that helps.
qikqbn replied to dphatch's topic in 997-1 Series (Carrera, Carrera 4, Carrera 2S, Carrera 4S)I have an 06 C4S and recently switched to 245/35/19's on the front and I have 305/30/19s on the rear. the 245 is 25.8" diameter compared to 235 25.5". The GT3's wear the 245 size too. adds just a touch more width and looks Great!! Just my opinion, but going 235-40 route, the tire may look a bit too tall compared to the rears. Even though my current setup still has the front diameter slightly smaller than the rears, they look almost the same diameter when looking at the car. the 40 aspect ratio may make it look a bit off balance with the fronts being taller. just something to think about ;^)
Hey guys, my friend did a short film project on my Carrera 4S. We tried to capture the sights and sounds of driving these awesome cars in a great "Porsche" short film.. Check it out and pass along to your car buddies! Enjoy!
If you are gonna stick with the 997's, then definitely hold out for an "S" with all the options you desire. The regular Carrera has all the goods, but the "S" comes with better power, brakes, suspension and wheels. In the long run I think you will be happier with the upgrades and it will be worth the extra $7-8k difference. Interior options are just as important as the exterior, so I would be picky there too. There are lots of great bargains out there if you are patient and do lots of research. Phillip and I had very similar experience. Our local dealer salesman and a good mechanic both said you would hate your 997 after driving the 991. Now, if you knew me, then you would know that I LOVE my 997 C4S. I really admire ALL Porsches and I am a huge fanatic. So I was already excited to see what the 991 would drive like, but when I heard that statement I really had to drive it for myself to see what all the hype was about. I got to test drive the 991. Silver, Pdk, Carrera S. I don't know if its just that expectations were so high, or that I still don't like automatics, but I was not "blown away" like everyone has been saying. I will say this. It is a great car and a step up in many ways, no doubt about it. The ride was quieter, yet still firm. The interior feels and looks really impressive, , although very busy with buttons, Materials feel and look high quality. navigation and info in cluster display is a nice gadgety feature. Just not sure if all those gizmos are necessary. in an iconic sports car... I hardly use half the features in my C4s Navigation system! so it seems way overkill. The 997 is just a great and an amazing car by any standard.. The 991 car looks very modern, as it should, next to a 997 and the 997 is looking a bit dated when parked next to the 991, but the 997 is still a great looking car. Like the 993, arguably the best looking 911 design, the 997 has a great connection and the spirit of that 993 design. The 997 will always look great, even 20 years from now. I am also still a stick shift guy. The pdk was really cool to play with, but I wanted full control. Automatics still make me feel disconnected from the throttle. floor it, wait for downshift, hold on.... I have to say though, no stick shift can upshift that fast... amazing. Low end torque felt the same to me, and top end pull felt a bit stronger and pulled longer due to higher rev limit, but not that much faster then my 997when pulling hard on full throttle. Electronic steering felt good. A bit too light at low speeds, but more precise the faster you went. definitely filters out a lot of the bumps which can be good or bad depending on what kind of roads and driving you are doing. All in all... i walked away still VERY happy with my 997 C4S. It is a great car and I love it. Would I like a 991 in the future... sure, who wouldn't, but just not sure I would trade my 997 in for one now. I am waiting to see what the next C4S or Turbo has to offer. Or even the next GTS 4. Exciting versions are coming very soon. The 997 will go down in history as the last true 911 with "lively steering feel and rear end 911 characteristic". The last "analog" 911 before it went "digital". The 991 will be the car that takes Porsche into the "electronic control future" and it will accomplish GREAT things and win tons of races. A great first pass and glimpse into whats coming. I just love the way Porsche always strives to pursue excellence.. I am sure they will only get better and better with each iteration.
qikqbn replied to azelaya's topic in 9PA, 9PA1 (Cayenne, Cayenne S, Cayenne Turbo, Cayenne Turbo S)The staggered wheel idea is an interesting option. But the sport design wheels I have are 20x9 all the way around so I would like to keep all the tires the same size. i have a feeling the 315 would have that "muffin top" look on the rear 9 inch wide wheels. I wonder what 295/40's all around would do for the handling? hmmmm something to think about. thanks for posting all that info. It would be nice if anyone can post some pics of their larger/taller tires on oem 20's... any takers ;^)
qikqbn replied to azelaya's topic in 9PA, 9PA1 (Cayenne, Cayenne S, Cayenne Turbo, Cayenne Turbo S)hey dervin1968 and swflhomes, were you able to figure out how to post those pics. I am contemplating this same idea. I purchased my wife an 04 CS 6 yrs ago with 20 inch sport design wheels and 275/40/20 tires. It continues to be a great suv and family car, will probably get her a 2011 CS next year, but for now I am about to move on to my 3rd set of tires. 1st I had oem Conti's on it, and now Hankooks Ventus with about 20k miles on them. Hankooks are not absorbing the bumps very well any more and getting louder. The car still handles great, but just getting tired of the hard tire slaps and bumps on our crappy freeways out her in los angeles. I was thinking of going with a taller diameter with 275/45/20, vs the stock 275/40/20, and that it would add a more supple ride. Since my wife drives the car 99% of the time, I don't think she will notice a loss of canyon driving handling. I also wanted the wheel well fender gap filled a bit better too for better looks. I noticed swflhomes mentioned he would not do it again... bummer. if either of you could expand on that or supply pics that would be very helpful. right now, if I stay with original size I hear the hankooks "AS" all season are a lot quieter. any thoughts?
qikqbn replied to JoeA's topic in 997-1 Series (Carrera, Carrera 4, Carrera 2S, Carrera 4S)Hey Joe, Looks to me like you have other factors to consider too.. Manual vs tiptronic? Not sure how much it means to you, but that's a huge decision too, regardless of 2wd vs 4wd. There is also the 2 inch wider rear end on the C4S, in my opinion stands out more and looks awesome, and wider rear wheels/tires (305 vs 295 tire size). The better balance with the front axle, psm for awd, preloading brake cylinder feature are different and nice upgrades on C4S. Also, consider how much time is left on both CPO's and when they expire. New extened warranty's will run ya around $3k I have experienced greater confidence in handling (especially tight corners) in the dry in a C4S, so in the snow or rain I would only expect that confidence to grow even greater with AWD. The 2wd Carrera's front end tends to get light and push a lot more then the AWD 4S in tight corners and accellerating hard through the exit. I found I had to be a lot more restrained in the 2S vs 4S during some spirited canyon driving with my friends 2S and then less restrained and more confident jumping back into my 4S. This all being in dry weather ! I can not comment on snow conditions, because I will not drive my C4S in the snow, plus living in Southern Cal, we don't get much snow out here. But rain conditions.... I love hearing and feeling all 4 wheels clawing for traction ;^) My advice.... decide what it is you REALLY want... be very patient and search some more. It took me 6 months to find my C4S and it has every option I wanted, fully loaded, beautiful interior, exterior color, wheels, tires, LOW mileage, and great price. IT was the EXACT car I wanted and dreamed about. I have NO regrets whatsoever. God was looking out for me because out of frustration I almost purchased a different C4S that I was going to "settle on". I got my cashiers check for the full amount, drove 2 hours to the dealership and when I got there some one had called 20 minutes before and put a deposit on the car over the phone. I was devastated because I had spent a lot of time "convincing" myself that one was the car and best I could find, but in my heart I knew I was settling. So my gut never felt right about it.. 2 months later I found my PERFECT 911 and I knew it the instant I saw her. I could not hand my check over fast enough I was so excited.... I hope you can find one like that.. that you know instantly , "this is the one for me" ;^) In the mean time take a few more test drives in both automatic vs manual, 2wd vs awd and see if you can get a good feel for how they differ through the canyons. Dry daily city driving they will feel the same. It is the extremes where the difference will stand out. All the Best on your search. Bill C4S in snow :clapping:
qikqbn replied to seskiyapan's topic in 997-1 Series (Carrera, Carrera 4, Carrera 2S, Carrera 4S)Not sure if you did your project or found your answers... but I was very frustrated at how little information there was out there to do this conversion. People said it could be done and was, but little actual specifics. Here is what I experienced with my 06 Carrera 4S face lift project. I just turned 40 this year in February and it was a great time to do a little something special for myself, or atleast that's what I told my wife :thumbup: I wanted to upgrade the look of my C4S and the 2011 Carrera GTS, Speester, and sport classic came out from Porsche and I absolutely love the new Sport Design front bumper. Since I have the wide body C4S I also added the GT2 side skirts that are also on the GTS,Sport Classic and Speedster. Like you, I wanted to freshen the look of my C4S with new LED lights as well, which turned out to be quite the nightmare to research. Do you need a computer, what is the wiring diagram, what parts are needed, etc, etc??? Nightmare to find answers and a lot of people wanting to charge you lots of money to give you the answer... but now that I know it is not so bad executing if you have a good indy mechanic or are resourceful and can handle a wiring diagram and splicing. IF, IF you are ONLY doing the FRONT LED upgrade and bumper... you DO NOT need a new control unit for the lights.... IF... IF you are planning to upgrade the REAR tail Lights to LED and bumper... then you WILL need a updated control unit. For the FRONT LED upgrade we just had to modify the wiring harness that runs to the front turn signals and fog lights. You must order the 2009 LED "Mini Loom Cables"... 2 qty (L+R)... These mini cables are about 12 inches long and are the new wiring and plug that go into the updated LED turn signals. They will need to be spliced in to your existing turn/signal/fog light wiring harness that runs the entire length of your bumper. Your existing MAIN cable plugs in just behind your passengar head light. the cable then drops down and runs along the entire bottom of your front bumper all the way to your driver side side marker light. Along the cable you will see where there are additional wire cable looms that branch off to your turn signal/ fog light. It is those wires to the turn signals that you will have to basically cut and remove and then splice in your 2009 LED mini loom. Your old turn signal has 3 plugs /wires that feed into it for turn signal, fog light, and parking light. The New LED loom is only 1 plug that handles all three function. All the voltage conversion for front LED light is handled inside the new LED turn signal automatically. I have a great indy mechanic and he was able to get the wiring diagrams for the new LED mini cable loom as far as which wire feeds the fog light, turn signal and parking light. There is only 1 ground wire in the new LED cable loom, so your 3 grounds wires of old mini loom will be handled and spliced onto 1 now with the new LED mini loom. You will need to be resourceful and get your hands on a diagram or have your indy look into to which 3 old "power" wires match up to the 3 power wires of the LED. Once that hurdle is done and the new cables are spliced in it is just plug in as usual. NOW... LED's work by turning on your parking light and this turns on the thin LED light. Pull your light knob to activate "fog lights" and now you get thin LED light PLUS Lower line of lights to give that really nice and bright LED effect. If you have Sport Chrono pkg, then you can go into your settings on the MAIN nav/radio screen and there is a "Memory" section that has the "daytime running lights on/off" check box. You can check that on, but your headlights will be on as well. I just use the parking light switch and pull for fog light to have that cool LED daylight running, but with no headlights.. OK, so that's all you need know for front LED's wiring only ... NOW all the parts you will need for doing the Front bumper conversion.. -2009 Front Bumper or Sport design bumper -Lower lip spoiler for design bumper/ or plastic inserts on regular 2009 -Middle air deflector for "center mouth opening". Be sure to check if you have a center radiator for Automatic cars. PDK cars have center radiator, so the mouth/center shroud is different for Autos vs Manual, but maybe not on 997.1 . 2009 Manual cars have just a center air deflector "wall" that routes air to the L+R new radiator shroud. PDK cars have an "OPEN" hole that feeds air directly to center radiator. -Left and Right updated radiator shrouds , much bigger- Old radiator shrouds too small.. -L+R Vent Grills. They also double as the LED mounts and washer nozzle holders Unit. -Left and Right updated Led turn signal lights- -2 mini cable looms to run to L+R LED turn signals -Left and Right updated headlight washer nozzles- If you have head light washer.. old nozzle units will not plug into new LED Grill Unit. I hope this helps. Price wise... I ordered everything from Luke at Sunset Porsche for a good price. Figure approximately $2500-3000 US for parts and then whatever you can find for painting. Plus keep some money a side to pay your indy mechanic for saving you a lot of trouble and doing the wiring for you :help: They are smart and work hard... It will be worth it. Here are a couple of pics of my 2006 Carrera 4S with facelift. ...
qikqbn replied to 0356kid's topic in 997-1 Series (Carrera, Carrera 4, Carrera 2S, Carrera 4S)Hey Tony, I realize you are looking for answers for yellow lens tint in particular and if it is legal... Do you have any cop friends? Maybe a good time to just ask them if they look for that kind of stuff to ticket. I can only tell ya about my experience with the clear bra material and that it can be easily removed if you get into trouble from your local traffic cops.. If it is just the lens you want material for you can buy the material pre-cut and it is very easy to apply yourself. It is also not that expensive for just the lens'. Any thing beyond that I would have a professional install it. A great installer can make all the difference in the world covering the hard to reach spots and making the bra as "invisible" as possible and getting it to look great . I highly recommend the clear bra, especially if you are meticulous like most of us and hate to see paint chips from rocks :cursing: here is a website to look for pre cut material... http://www.invisiblemask.com/ As far as tinting your lights just for the sake of looking cool... I doubt you would get in much trouble, but if you do, it is easily removed in a few minutes. Just make sure they are using the right material... Not a window tint material that is thin and easily tears, but a strong protective film good enough to protect you lens for hwy and racing. Unlike window tint that strips and breaks in pieces when you try to remove it... the clear bra material is very strong and hard to tear. If you have to, You just pull it off SLOWLY in one piece. Bill
qikqbn replied to qikqbn's topic in 997-1 Series (Carrera, Carrera 4, Carrera 2S, Carrera 4S)I LOVE stickers ! :jump: LOL . I hear stickers are good for 10 more hp. Phillip, Turbo's like yours are much easier to squeeze more power out of, and when i had a turbo (mitsubishi) I was like a kid in a candy store buying every upgrade possible. I did see major gains in power, but I also inherited major frustration from all the little things that started going wrong too. Seemed like I was always fixing or adjusting boost problems like little leaks or vacuum lines popping off all the aftermarket stuff. I feel your pain. You still have an awesome beast with or without the upgrades. bert987 ... interesting info, I did not know 2.7 and 3.4 use same headers on cayman's.. Wow, larger throttle body.... hmmmm Is there programming involved? One other thing that stood out from the article and also stood out from a gold meister tech I talked to at Porsche is this... The article and tech confirmed that basically the headers are a part of a system designed by porsche as a unit. Headers alone will not necessarily give you the results you want. They may shift when and where your peak torque hits, but the hp may not be what you expect. So basically consider the entire system and not just single upgrades or parts... now, about that throttle body... ;)
Just wanted to share an article I came across concerning headers and pipe diameters. I currently have the K&N Cold Air Kit 57-7000 and IPD Plenum. The K&N kit alone did an amazing job of eliminating most of the dreaded "flat spot" in power for the 3.8 liter between 4500-6500 rpm. I can not say enough about it, my favorite mod so far. Pulls significantly harder through 4500-6500 rpm and screams to 7300 rpm. The sound alone was worth it to me. 5500-7300 rpm shrieks like a GT3 and the performance is noticeable. The IPD Plenum further eliminated any remaining flat spots and helped a little more on the top end. All K&N and IPD Plenum dyno's benefit most between 4500-6500 rpm, but the pull to 7000 is that much more sweeter. So, since I am happy with my top end pull I was seriously considering adding the x51 headers to my 997 C4S for even better air flow. The X51 headers have larger diameter primary pipes, so what exactly does that do and how does it benefit or change the power curve delivery? "The stock 997S headers have ø 42mm tubes. Both the 997S X51 and 996 GT3 headers have ø 48mm tubes." This article may be old news for most of ya, but still beneficial to those looking into headers now. I Also realize this article is not Porsche specific, but the science and results should be the same for all cars. full article is here: http://www.carcraft....sics/index.html some interesting key points. "As engine speed increases, so does flow rate. Then, as restrictions increase, velocity slows again, reducing power accordingly. Interestingly, camshaft design, compression ratio, ignition-spark timing, and piston displacement affect all this if an accompanying improvement in the exhaust system isn't included with such changes. In fact, these types of modifications can cause exhaust problems to occur sooner in the rpm range.On the other hand, exhaust systems can be too big for engine packages that don't produce sufficient exhaust-flow volume to necessitate size increase. So we're back to the flow-velocity issue. Sizing of system components, such as headers, can be keyed to engine speed and piston displacement. We'll show you how this is done later in the story. Graph A illustrates how merely changing pipe diameter affects an engine's output. Note that the smallest diameter creates good midrange torque yet falls off at the top, while the larger primary header pipes add more high-rpm power at the expense of low-speed torque. Primary pipe length can also skew an engine's power curve based on length changes. Primary-pipe diameter establishes the peak torque point, so changing the pipe length will rock the output curve by pivoting it around that peak torque point. Graph B shows how longer tubes tend to increase power below peak torque while hurting power above peak torque. Shorter tubes tend to affect the engine in exactly the opposite way, hurting midrange torque in favor of increasing top-end power. Primary pipe diameter plays a big part in determining the torque curve. A pipe that is too small creates peak exhaust-gas velocity too early in the rpm curve and will limit top end horsepower. Pipes too large lose low rpm torque and create peaky output curves. So, million dollar question???.. Sacrifice low end torque (majority of city driving), for more top end??? which would you perfer? hmmmmm
I have the porsche oem sport shifter on my 997.1 C4S . I love it and and the precision is much better then the stock shifter. I also have the Porsche/B&M unit on my Boxster 5 speed.. No comparison. the 997 short shifter feels smoother, more precise and less notchy then the B&M. Stick with the Porsche oem short shifter for the 997 rather than aftermarket. Order it from Sunset imports and get a decent price. Still pricier then B&M, but over the long run you will be very happy. Just be sure to mark the cables correctly while installing. I would not even think twice about it. You will feel more precise control and the whole driving experience will feel that much sharper. all the best, Bill
I upgraded my 997.1 Carrera 4S to the Sport design front bumper and side skirts that match the 2011 Carrera GTS. I LOVE the new look of the GTS. Really adds a bit more of an aggressive look. I would also definitely get the "sport shifter". Porsche has come a long way in the feel and precision with the short shifter kit. WAY better then what they had in the 996. The shorter shifts and precision make the whole car feel that much more solid and in tune with your inputs. The GT3 RS front and fender flares are going to look awesome! Nice option. Have you thought about adding spacers to your front wheels, since the fender flares for the RS were made to work with the 9 inch wide vs 8.5 wheel and 245/35/19 vs 235/35/19 ? Porsche just announced this week that there is now a 2011 Carrera 4 GTS. Porsche is hitting them out of the ball park lately. So much awesomeness to chose from. Have you thought about the Carrera 4 GTS ? You can have all wheel drive in your GTS and possibly skip upgrading your other car... just a thought. Congratulations! we all envy ya.... in a good way ;^)