Bose or Burmester upgrade

[pcstitanium2006]

Hi all,

I just got the 2015 Panamera GTS love the car however not so much for the audio system it came with.  Mine is a basic audio system.  It would be nice if I can turn it into at least a Bose or even better a Burmester sound system.  Does anyone have any idea if this can be done and what process involve in doing that?  

Thanks!

[ciaka]

I do not know for sure but I fear this will not be possible without serious tearing into upholstery, dash, trunk, to install necessary harness for these.

Porsches are all made per build sheet, not like typical line vehicles like Ford, Chevy, toyota.

Customer puts in all his selections, options, etc, into a build list.  That goes to the factory and as vehicle gets assembled, only items on the build list make it into the car.  So they do not have a universal harness that things plug or unplug from.  

For this audio, I do not think you will be able to do this without serious work, and expensive too.

I hope someone proves me wrong.

[blakey81]

Talked to my dealer about the same thing because on ebay you can find entire Burnmester systems from totaled cars.  Dealer said I'd be better of just buying a new car.  I guess the way Porsche runs electronics off a CAN system makes it difficult to integrate upgrades.

[ciaka]

On my Cayenne turbo, the highest upgrade I could get was Bose.  Got it.

On my Panamera turbo, the highest upgrade I could get was Burmester.  Got it.

 

Between the two, Burmester is hands down superior, in all aspects, level, tone, dynamic range, etc.  Wow.  My kids are wowed with their friends, and that should say something, as today, kids are only impressed by social media BS.

[ciaka]

As additional info for upgrades, Porsches are made as individual cars, not line cars.  Means that every car travels through assembly with paperwork, that tells assembly folks what to put in.

Harnesses are customized to only attach options you chose.  So, many upgrades you choose limit the car to what is there at time of purchase, because afterwards, it would be cost prohibitive to add something.  Way of the Porsche, but thats the way we love it.

[JFP in PA]

4 hours ago, ciaka said:

As additional info for upgrades, Porsches are made as individual cars, not line cars.  Means that every car travels through assembly with paperwork, that tells assembly folks what to put in.

Harnesses are customized to only attach options you chose.  So, many upgrades you choose limit the car to what is there at time of purchase, because afterwards, it would be cost prohibitive to add something.  Way of the Porsche, but thats the way we love it.

 

Porsche changed their ways after getting burned years ago.  In 2001, every car that rolled off the assembly line had cruise control and the on board computer capability literally built into them, even if it was not ordered as an option.  The theory was that if someone later wanted to add it, the dealer would charge the exact amount of the original option and simply activate the desired option with the PST II or PIWIS system with minimal actual mechanical modifications.  Problem was that (1) People caught on to the fact that the options were already there, and (2) People refused to pay Porsche what they thought they were due, and either activated the options themselves using the Durametric software , or paid a lot less to have an Indy do the deed.  Some of the few that actually paid Porsche to activate the system sued PCNA, claiming they were paying for something they already owned, and the courts agreed with them.  Porsche subsequently stopped putting inactive options, and their associated harnesses, sensors, etc. into the cars unless they were originally ordered that way, making updates later more onerous.

[PP4]

That's a great piece of Porsche history [emoji106]


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