New Motor

[911porschefan]

Guys

I need to pick some brains on this. I am a little worried about the car that I am purchasing. My very good friend, I guy I have known for 10 years is the dealer who bought this car for me. He deals exclusively with high end Porsche, Ferraris, Lambos, etc. I would trust him with my first born if I had one.

Here is the situation, I was supposed to get my 2001 C2 Cab on Wednesday, but I did not. It was at his mechanics shop getting the Rear Main Seal done and engine mount and general inspection. Again this mechanic works exclusively on Prosches, Ferraris, Lambos, Lotus etc. As they were working on the motor, they decided that it would be possible to pull a few strings and get a brand new motor put in for me under warranty. Rather then spend the money putting in a new seal and engine mounts, they decided to call a few friends and get a new motor installed for me at the local Porsche dealer.

Here are my concerns, my car is a 2001 with 30,000 kms on it. When I go to sell my vehicle, if I ever do. Won't the new motor hurt my resale value since it is not original. Why would the car need a new engine after only 30,000 kms. Is the RMS leak issue that much of a concern? Is this common in Porsches.

My friend said that it is a good thing that I am getting a new motor, that way I can be the first to wreck it (his words). He said that rather than do the Rear Main Seal and worry about it leaking again, it would be better for me to get a new motor put in and not worry about the rear main seal. In the older motors, there could be potential leaks, even after they are replaced several times, this way I get a new motor and the likelihood of a RMS leak is gone. I am glad that I am getting a new motor, but will it affect my resale later?

[Dharn55]

It seems to me a new engine, with zero miles is better for future resale than an older, higher mileage engine with a history of RMS replacement. I don't think this will be a problem in resale.

[Danyol]

I purchased a car this way, that is exactly how I justified it to myself.

Better a fresh factory motor than one that's been messed around with. Also there are so many of the 996s out there I'm not sure matching engine numbers would be as big a deal as with a classic car.

The other thing I'm getting accustom to with 911s; dropping the engine is not a big deal. With my other cars you always had the feeling things didn't go back the way they were.

Break your engine in correctly and enjoy! :D

[boxs2000]

that is a very good friend indeed. This problem is commom with the Porsches. Having the motor replaced would be a positive. One thing to keep in mind is your friend is probably saving money by having the repair done under warranty vs paying for the repairs. This is a win win for both, he saves money and you get a brand new motor.

[djantlive]

From a new buyer perspective, he will want to know why an RMS caused new engine replacement. No matter what you say, he will think there is something terminally wrong with the car to warrant an engine replacement. RMS history is bad enough. Engine replacement is worse. Are you getting a brand new engine or one that is remanufactured? If not new, I'd not replace it.

[Ubermensch]

If you're going to keep it forever the new engine is a good thing. If you're going to sell it eventually I'd have to think about it a lot. No way would I purchase a car with a replaced engine. I'd assume the owner beat the original one and would worry about the rest of the car.

[magcuda]

the motors are replaced because the hole they go in to is not round. there is a technical bulletin that has you use a special tool to check the roundness of the seal hole. if it isn't round it will never seal, so porsche replaces the motor. any one who is familiar with the water cooled cars are used to engine replacement, so it will not hurt the value. if anything knowing that the original motor was checked and found defective and replaced with a factory fresh piece should ADD value to the car.

[Hroussard]

I agree that it should ADD value for several reasons :

1/ It's new Porsche produced engine,

2/ You should get a warranty with the thing

3/ If you are Porsche person you know the story around the RMS and how to deal with it.

4/ Porsche will tell you that consider an engine an itewm that can be replaced, just like a battery.

5/ You would check and replace as needed all the other moving / wearing parts such as clutch, oil pump, waterpump etc which would guarantee a fully -as new- drivetrain ( except the gearbox maybe)

I believe they stamp the old engine number in the new case because Porsche considers this to be an exchangeable part. I heard that but I am not sure if that is true.

HarryR C2 1999

[911porschefan]

Guys thanks for the advice and guidance. Once I get the vehicle I will let you know what Porsche did. When my mechanic looked at the vehicle, he saw very little wear on the clutch, oil pump, water pump, etc. He commented that the car was very well maintained, but he worried about the RMS seal. Everything else was fine.

I will let you know what they do about the engine and whether they stamp a different number or the same.

[macsak]

the new motor will have a new block number

aloha

steve

I agree that it should ADD value for several reasons :

1/ It's new Porsche produced engine,

2/ You should get a warranty with the thing

3/ If you are Porsche person you know the story around the RMS and how to deal with it.

4/ Porsche will tell you that consider an engine an itewm that can be replaced, just like a battery.

5/ You would check and replace as needed all the other moving / wearing parts such as clutch, oil pump, waterpump etc which would guarantee a fully -as new- drivetrain ( except the gearbox maybe)

I believe they stamp the old engine number in the new case because Porsche considers this to be an exchangeable part. I heard that but I am not sure if that is true.

HarryR C2 1999

[juankimalo]

I think that a new engine is better to resale.

You'll have the warranty of the new motor indeed.

Try not to think about it and enjoy the car as much as you could.

[911porschefan]

I just got word from my friend. Porsche is going to replace the motor under the exchange program. They have agreed to pay 75% of the cost of the new motor. Does anyone have any more info on this. Am I still getting a good deal? Has anyone done an exchange through this program. Any info would be great.

Guys

I need to pick some brains on this. I am a little worried about the car that I am purchasing. My very good friend, I guy I have known for 10 years is the dealer who bought this car for me. He deals exclusively with high end Porsche, Ferraris, Lambos, etc. I would trust him with my first born if I had one.

Here is the situation, I was supposed to get my 2001 C2 Cab on Wednesday, but I did not. It was at his mechanics shop getting the Rear Main Seal done and engine mount and general inspection. Again this mechanic works exclusively on Prosches, Ferraris, Lambos, Lotus etc. As they were working on the motor, they decided that it would be possible to pull a few strings and get a brand new motor put in for me under warranty. Rather then spend the money putting in a new seal and engine mounts, they decided to call a few friends and get a new motor installed for me at the local Porsche dealer.

Here are my concerns, my car is a 2001 with 30,000 kms on it. When I go to sell my vehicle, if I ever do. Won't the new motor hurt my resale value since it is not original. Why would the car need a new engine after only 30,000 kms. Is the RMS leak issue that much of a concern? Is this common in Porsches.

My friend said that it is a good thing that I am getting a new motor, that way I can be the first to wreck it (his words). He said that rather than do the Rear Main Seal and worry about it leaking again, it would be better for me to get a new motor put in and not worry about the rear main seal. In the older motors, there could be potential leaks, even after they are replaced several times, this way I get a new motor and the likelihood of a RMS leak is gone. I am glad that I am getting a new motor, but will it affect my resale later?